Re: [CR]OT:Lyonsport bicycles...

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:26:27 -0800
Subject: Re: [CR]OT:Lyonsport bicycles...
From: Mark A. Perkins <>

Hello again everyone:

Isn't there a saying that the greatest form of flattery is to copy? I've thought for years, that now that I know how to build bicycle frame-sets, maybe I could build one just like some already existing frame, like a Hetchins, or a MASI. I wouldn't try to pass it off as some other brand, I'd put my own name on it since I have screens to make my own decals (with my name on them). But I would try to duplicate every detail as close as possible. Well, maybe I will someday, and maybe I won't.

I once replaced the front half of a DeRosa frame, and with the exception of one lug point, it looked exactly like it did before the crash, but the one lug point really stood out as different than the others. Otherwise you couldn't tell that it had been repaired if it weren't for the primer where there once was paint color.

I have future plans to build two curved-seat-tube bikes, one road-bike for a friend and one track-bike for myself. I have never intended to duplicate a Jack Taylor curve-tube frame, but I do intend to duplicate the curve in the seat-tube. Besides, I have never seen two Jack Taylor curve-tube's that were built exactly the same as one another. I also intend to use investment cast, stainless steel, lugs (at least on the head-tube), and drop-outs.

I guess what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be a problem if someone wants to build frames just like some other builder's, as long as you're not trying to pass them on as something that they're not. Like Jeff does with the stays on the frame mentioned below.

Happy New Year to all, "Bicycle Mark" Perkins Fresno, CA

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:18:02 EST writes:
> With those curly stays on the Lyonsport, too bad these aren't lugged
> frames. Having said that, probably not a good idea anyway as I
> suppose someone would accuse Jeff Lyon of making a fake
> Hetchins.......Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
> _______________________________________________

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