Re: [CR]Early 70s Derosa on Ebay


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From: "Takao Noda" <tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp>
To: "Classic Bike List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20010531.130058.-197523.10.richardsachs@juno.com> <3B174180.92C83E15@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Early 70s Derosa on Ebay
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:13:42 +0900


I also think this DeRosa is not of early 1970s, circa 1973 but of mid or late 1970s. For I had an old Italian friend who rode a small but beautiful DeRosa which was made about 10 years before 1983. He told me that when he was a child he was much faster than Ugo. And he told me the frame was filed by Mr.Nagasawa. I don't remember whether it had the heart engraved on the crown but do remember it had no engraving on the seatstay caps. I think the press lugs were filed a bit more beautifully than those on eBay but were equally made small.
                           Takao Noda
                  Hachioji, Tokyo, Japan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Boral"
Cc:
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Early 70s Derosa on Ebay



> The seller posted some more pictures. I now feel more confident of the
> vintage he claims. I find it interesting how that seatstay cap and the
> diamante chainstays were incorporated that early on.
>
> Marc Boral
>
> Richard M Sachs wrote:
>
> > this derosa is of the period. dubois lugs. flat capped
> > seatstays. top of shell cable guides. pre-cpsc parts.
> > it passes the smell test, as far as i'm concerned.
> > e-RICHIE
> > http://www.richardsachs.com
> >
> > On Thu, 31 May 2001 09:08:57 -0700 Marc Boral <mbikealive@earthlink.net>
> > writes:
> > > Jeeeez, it always ceases to amaze me what parts people forget to take
> > > pictures of. I would have liked to see the fork crown, bb
> > > shell, dropouts, chainstays, and other frame details. A few things
> > > bother me about the accuracy of the claimed vintage: I
> > > believe the stem to be of a later vintage, and that seat stay cap
> > > doesn't seem like one from '73. Anybody have a +/- '73 De Rosa
> > > to corroborate these details?
> > >
> > > In his description he comments, "Also notice the unusual
> > > heart-shaped design of the derailleur." That's pretty funny. He's
> > > either very naive (nothing wrong with that), or deliberately trying
> > > to act naive, so as to avoid responsibility.
> > >
> > > Marc Boral
> > >
> > >
> > > LouDeeter@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > #1149026676
> > > >
> > > > Appears to be about 59-60cm to me. Nice pantographed chainring,
> > > stem & seatpost. Too big for me.
> > > >
> > > > Lou Deeter, Orlando "moving into the new home today--hoping the 25
> > > bike boxes (with 10 bikes and wheels) survived the move!!!"