Re: [CR]Brooks logo ?


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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:12:58 -0700
To: "John D" <bikehunter@saber.net>, "Jim McCoin" <ronald774@home.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "kenji fusejima" <QYP02710@nifty.com>
From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks logo ?
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The Ideale "Rebour" treatment made a BIG difference. It was about as processed a leather as you will find, just oozing the waxy treatment. The saddles broke in quickly and were so permeated they almost didn't need any future care. We used to buy a big box at a time from Peugeot (strange the PX10 had a Brooks) which I think was 50 Ideale 90s. Came in heavy plastic bag so the goop didn't get everywhere.

Joe

At 01:05 PM 7/13/01 -0700, John D wrote:
>Kenji Fusejima wrote:
>
>
>"rodee main" selon D. Rebour
>As for "hand treatment for saddle", Mr. Daniel Rebour offered the idea only
>for Ideale saddle. It seems that the saddles with this treatment was
>announced at "Salon de Paris" 1968 trade show."
>
>
>
>It's been my personal experience that the practical difference between a
>"normal" Brooks and the "'presoftened" Brooks is virtually nil. I have
>heard others voice the same sentiments. And, apparently, Brooks has
>discontinued the practice.
>
>Does anyone know whether Rebour's treatment actually made any substantial
>difference, as opposed to just another case of advertising hype? Can anyone
>offer info as to the method that Rebour used as opposed to the method of
>"presoftening" by Brooks?
>
>John Dunn in Napa Valley
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: kenji fusejima <QYP02710@nifty.com>
>To: Jim McCoin <ronald774@home.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks logo ?
>
>
>> At 7:00 AM -0700 01.7.13, Jim McCoin wrote:
>> >What does the logo "Selle Rodie Main" on the seat area of a Brooks Pro
>> >stand for , some one suggested it was Daniel Rebours system for pre
>> >softening . Any ideas
>> >Jim McCoin
>>
>> Hello Jim;
>>
>> "rodee main" selon D. Rebour
>> As for "hand treatment for saddle", Mr. Daniel Rebour offered the idea
>only
>> for Ideale saddle. It seems that the saddles with this treatment was
>> announced at "Salon de Paris" 1968 trade show.
>>
>> These are the photocopies of the paper which came attached to the product.
>> The first is surface and second is reverse side.
>> http://www12.xdsl.ne.jp/~fuseken/ideale1.gif
>> http://www12.xdsl.ne.jp/~fuseken/ideale2.gif
>>
>> This is a photocopy of the book "Le Monde de Daniel Rebour".
>> It has written, "It was announced at Salon de Paris 1968".
>> http://www12.xdsl.ne.jp/~fuseken/le_monde.gif
>>
>> Kenji Fusejima
>> Tokyo Japan