Pete:Yes, back in 1974 if you bought from: Turin CO-OP (Evanston, IL), we swapped out from the HB, stem bin for those big fisted buyers. => \u201cthe Raleigh Probuilder/sales/fittin\u2019 fools\u2026\u201d . We prided ourselves as fittin'\u2026 experts, and specialized (sic) our sales to customize the fit and finish (routinely) for the rider/buyer!Paul Dieterle, missed the mass of humanity (~10000 riders) at our LATE ride this evening... http://lateride.org/