The Rivendell "Dream" bar, which they no longer stock in a 40, has about an 80 reach and a 140 drop, if memory serves. It's the only bar I'll put on my bikes anymore and I bought five of them at once when they were getting rid of them.
When I last spoke to the Riv folks about this, they said that if someone wanted to order 10 - perhaps a few people from this list could get together - they'd be willing to order that but there'd be a wait until they arrived.
I also ride a Cinelli 64/40 and the dream bar just has a much nicer shape to it, IMHO - the tops are longer and, well, it's just dreamy.
Fred Rafael Rednor wrote:
> > I don't know about the least drop and reach but
> > Bicycle Classics has the Nitto B65LL...
> These are shallow drop bars but I believe the reach is
> 100 to 105mm, which is pretty long for a small cyclist.
> In fact, I think that the Bicycle Classics web page warns
> about this and mentions that you may have to use a shorter
> stem to account for the longer reach of the bars.
> > Within this range what would be considered "normal"?
> I think that's kind of like asking what is a normal frame
> > And, more important, how difficult is it to find bars
> > with, say, a 136 drop and a 65 reach.
> The closest you can get to this - at least with a 40cm wide
> bar - is a Cinelli model 64 or Nitto 185. The Nitto model
> 105 has a 65mm width but seems only to be available in 37cm
> width. Actually. although the Cinelli 64 is listed as 80mm
> reach, the set I measured this morning is actually a bit
> less - more like 75mm (on a 40cm wide bar).
> If someone has any 40cm Nitto 185s or Cinelli 64s around,
> please let me know.
> Fred Rednor