Re: [CR]Bicycle Condition Grading


Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor

To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net
Cc: GandJFahey@aol.com, LouDeeter@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:22:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Bicycle Condition Grading
From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>


i learned about the terms n.o.s. and n.i.p in the mid 90s and ended up writing this story: http://www.richardsachs.com/rsachsperiod.html

i still try to work these terms into a sentence daily, often before the noon hour. e-RICHIE

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:13:00 -0600 "Jerry & Liz Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> You may have a point in absolute terms, but NIP and NOS have become
> well
> established in the classic bike community. I first encountered them
> in
> Bicycle Trader and the Rivendell Reader when I renewed my interst in
> cycling
> (and realized my old bikes were now classics) about 1995. I assume
> they
> were in use well before then. So I doubt there is much likelihood
> of
> changing them now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GandJFahey@aol.com>
> To: <LouDeeter@aol.com>
> Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Bicycle Condition Grading
>
>
> > In a message dated 1/13/02 5:23:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > LouDeeter@aol.com writes:
> >
> >
> > > Grade:
> > >
> > > NIP: New in original packaging.
> > > NOS: New, unused, old stock.
> > > NEW: New, unused, recent production.
> > >
> >
> > Wouldn't it be better to just always use the word "unused" for
> something
> that
> > is unused, but old? New Old Stock isn't too bad of a term, but
> NIP which
> is
> > "New in original packaging" can be misleading to some people.
> Most CR
> folks
> > know what it means, but someone buying an NIP part online might
> expect
> their
> > part to be a 2002 model. Nowhere in "NIP" does it say anything
> about
> being
> > old stock.
> > "Unused" is self-explanatory, but "new' can mean different things
> to
> > different people.
> >
> > Just my 2 Euros.
> >
> > Glenn Fahey