Re: [CR]Campagnolo Brakes

Example: Humor:John Pergolizzi

Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:02:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Brakes
From: Richard M Sachs <>

to add to nick's post from this weekend re the various permutations of calipers...

there were centerbolts that were unchamafered, thus could hit the headset. they became chamfered. the originals were unmarked. then said 'brev.' and then, later, said 'patent'. as we know, through the years, the bolt's lengths varied due to nutted versus allen-keyed fasteners. the centerbolt is the only known place on which the marking 'brev.' was to be, one day, replaced with 'patent'. normally it would be the opposite.

if you only have two weeks to live, but want to feel like it's two years, read on...

some brake pads said nothing. others said 'campagnolo' on the top and 'brev. inter.' underneath. still others said 'campagnolo' on BOTH sides. and these were just the black pads. who even cares about the white or the grey ones!? (bored yet?)

the shoe holders were chromed and had all that writing on them. then the writing disappeared. these became plastic-coated. then the plastic- coating went over alloy, as opposed to chrome steel. yawn.

we have the 2 different q.r. levers, the flat type and the 'domed' type. and their cams, as we read about on friday, came with at least two different markings. waitress-check please.

as noted last week, the arms came in various, (at least 2), cross sections, in two lengths; early ones said nothing, (actually, they were unmarked. it would be a real treat to find a set that said 'nothing'. or 'nuttin' if you're from the bronx). early on, they would say 'brev. inter.' then just 'brev. int'. and just the other day, a listee mentioned seeing these types abbreviated WITHOUT the periods. i suggested a center punch. (for the caliper!). ultimately the calipers appeared with the script writing, painted blue in the cobalto sets and left unpainted in the super record type sets. were there ever normal reach calipers with script writing?coffee?!

lastly, (for now), the shapes of the various hardware pieces changed over the years; the front pieces on the center bolts. the anchor bolts for the cables. the parts of the shoe holders were once at least three seperate ones. then they became 'integral'. the serrated washers were not on the first brake sets. then they were introduced and they turned the world upsidedown, with every engineer in the world saying, 'why didn't i think of that?' the first version of these washers said 'campagnolo' and the following versions said 'nuttin'.

barkeeper, leave the bottle... e-RICHIE serrated #1 around here

> > > --- nick zatezalo <> wrote:
> > > > Chronology of side pull brakes
> > > > Normal Reach w/No lettering on arms
> > > > Normal Reach w/Block lettering Brev.Inter.
> > > > Short Reach W/Block lettering Brev.Int.& rubber
> > > > bumper
> > > > Normal & Short Reach W/Script letters
> > > > Normal & Short Reach W/Script letters & Anniversary
> > > > profile
> > > > Or something to that effect.
> > > > My question is regarding the frame types that needed
> > > > the
> > > > different arm lengths for brakes to function
> > > > properly.
> > > > What are the determining factors other than actual
> > > > dimensions?
> > > > Any general rules of thumb? Like year made/country
> > > > of origin/
> > > > manufacturer/wheel-rim combination.
> > > > Nick Zatezalo
> > > > COLD WET Atlanta,Ga