[CR]Re: Cinellii status

(Example: Framebuilding:Restoration)

From: "kevin gosney" <kevingosney10@hotmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 04:28:08 +0000
Subject: [CR]Re: Cinellii status

Listmembers,

I'm soliciting your thoughts on how to "finish" my red '73 Cinelli Special Corsa, serial #1748. It is as original now as the day it was purchased from Spence Wolf's Cupertino Bike Shop on September 6, 1973 (thanks Vance). So what's the problem you ask? I understand that Spence had an issue with how Cinelli packed their frames for shipping, therefore he specified no downtube decals be applied at the factory . ergo, this beauty has no downtube decals. The original buyer requested an Avocet Racing II saddle, Phil bottom bracket and thin foam Grab-On handlebar wrap. Fortunately the original owner also bought a Campy bbkt and Cinelli #2 saddle along with the bike, these I have,both NOS/NIP. So your thoughts: have dt decals applied and change out the saddle, bbkt and handlebar wrap, or leave as Spence and the original buyer intended? cool, drizzle in P-Town

Kevin ------------------------------------------

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&gt; 1. Re: Woooooooo. The zeus brakes are gone! Please leave my inbox alone. (OROBOYZ@aol.com)

&gt; 2. Re: quinn on eBay (Mike Self)

&gt; 3. Cosmetically sympathetic wheel components (feldman)

&gt; 4. Ideale Mod. 80 and 90: Brooks equivalents? (Lee Berg)

&gt; 5. Forgot to Change subject line to Brooks Saddle comfort (Mike Self)

&gt; 6. Re: Re: cyclocross (Sarah Gibson)

&gt; 7. RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima (Alan)

&gt; 8. San Antonio tomorrow... (OROBOYZ@aol.com)

&gt; 9. Re: Herse on Ebay (Fred Rafael Rednor)

&gt; 10. Re: RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima (Philcycles@aol.com)

&gt; 11. wool jerseys on eBay (Ray Coffey)

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&gt;Message: 1

&gt;From: OROBOYZ@aol.com

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:00:04 EST

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]Woooooooo. The zeus brakes are gone! Please leave my inbox alone.

&gt;To: REClassicBikes@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;

&gt;In a message dated 1/30/2002 11:19:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

&gt;REClassicBikes@aol.com writes:

&gt;

&gt;&lt;&lt; Being the list manager has some benefits as Dale got first shout. &gt;&gt;

&gt;

&gt;Hey now! I am playing fair as I get the CR e-mail at the same time as the

&gt;rest of you nerds!

&gt;FYI, many many months ago, I rid myself of "editing" the mail before its

&gt;posted. Now I get it when the rest of you do...

&gt;

&gt;Dale Brown

&gt;Greensboro, North Carolina

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&gt;Message: 2

&gt;From: "Mike Self"

&gt;To: "Questor" ,

&gt; "classicrendezvous"

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:47:05 -0500

&gt;

&gt;Steve,

&gt;

&gt;I bet your saddle sores come from your period correct Professional saddle

&gt;vs. the B17's I ride. For many of us I think Grant P. is correct, the B17

&gt;is more comfortable.

&gt;

&gt;If you are racing/training maybe the Professional's narrower shape is

&gt;better; I was never a racer so I don't know.

&gt;

&gt;Mike Self

&gt;Cincinnati, OH

&gt;

&gt;----- Original Message -----

&gt;From: "Questor"

&gt;To: "classicrendezvous"

&gt;Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:20 PM

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay

&gt;

&gt;

&gt; &gt; Please make that "Bracing for torture by Brooks seat saddle sores this

&gt; &gt; weekend in Cincinnati, OH"

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&gt;

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&gt;Message: 3

&gt;From: "feldman"

&gt;To:

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:16:30 -0800

&gt;Subject: [CR]Cosmetically sympathetic wheel components

&gt;

&gt;This came about during a phone discussion with another listmember =

&gt;yesterday. I have a bike repair business, he was asking me about the =

&gt;availability of period spokes--Robergel, Radealli (spelling?) etc. I =

&gt;proposed a few items that have superior modern quality (this boy has =

&gt;built wheels for 30 years, I don't want to hear about good, old spokes =

&gt;as there weren't any!) but vintage appearance for cyclists who want =

&gt;spokes that don't break and might not want to use tubular tires. These =

&gt;are my favorites for period appearance with modern reliability, it would =

&gt;be good to hear any others:

&gt;Spokes: Wheelsmith butted have a sharper transition between butt and =

&gt;midsection that looks more like an older type of spoke than DT's more =

&gt;gradual diameter change.

&gt;Rims: Torelli Expert, 480 gram clincher rim of a squarer appearance, =

&gt;clear anodized, shaped like old Mavic Mod E.

&gt;At ten feet it would look acceptably like an old tubular rim especially =

&gt;when shod with:

&gt;Tires: Vredestein Fortezza, or Rivendel Roly Poly depending on how =

&gt;skinny or fat a tire you want. Both fast rolling, comfortable, and =

&gt;tough. Both have skin sidewalls and black tread. Hope this keeps =

&gt;anyone from setting their 1965 classic up with blue Open Pros and =

&gt;green-striped Michelins!

&gt;

&gt;David Feldman

&gt;Vancouver, WA

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&gt;Message: 4

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:39:34 -0800

&gt;From: Lee Berg

&gt;To: classicrendezvous

&gt;Subject: [CR]Ideale Mod. 80 and 90: Brooks equivalents?

&gt;

&gt;In terms of size and shape, what are the closest Brooks equivalents to

&gt;the Ideale Model 80 and Model 90? For saddles of the same period, how

&gt;does Ideale quality compare to Brooks?

&gt;

&gt;Lee Berg

&gt;Palo Alto, Calif.

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&gt;Message: 5

&gt;From: "Mike Self"

&gt;To: "classicrendezvous"

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:45:35 -0500

&gt;Subject: [CR]Forgot to Change subject line to Brooks Saddle comfort

&gt;

&gt;Sorry gang,

&gt;

&gt;Before someone zings me, I apologize for not changing the subject line on my

&gt;previous email.

&gt;

&gt;Mike Self

&gt;Cincinnati. OH

&gt;----- Original Message -----

&gt;From: "Mike Self"

&gt;To: "Questor" ; "classicrendezvous"

&gt;

&gt;Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:47 AM

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay

&gt;

&gt;

&gt; &gt; Steve,

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; I bet your saddle sores come from your period correct Professional saddle

&gt; &gt; vs. the B17's I ride. For many of us I think Grant P. is correct, the B17

&gt; &gt; is more comfortable.

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; If you are racing/training maybe the Professional's narrower shape is

&gt; &gt; better; I was never a racer so I don't know.

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; Mike Self

&gt; &gt; Cincinnati, OH

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----

&gt; &gt; From: "Questor"

&gt; &gt; To: "classicrendezvous"

&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:20 PM

&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt; Please make that "Bracing for torture by Brooks seat saddle sores this

&gt; &gt; &gt; weekend in Cincinnati, OH"

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&gt;Message: 6

&gt;From: "Sarah Gibson"

&gt;To: sadiejane9@hotmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]Re: cyclocross

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:55:21

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;sorry

&gt;the real link would be

&gt;www.oldtowncyclery.com/oldcross.htm

&gt;

&gt; &gt;From: "Sarah Gibson"

&gt; &gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]Re: cyclocross

&gt; &gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:59:55

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;hi all

&gt; &gt;it's hard to tell exactly what the bikes are outfitted with but the photos

&gt; &gt;are fun to check out, nontheless.

&gt; &gt;http://www.oldtowncyclery.com/index2.htm

&gt; &gt;have fun. and if you have any to add i would be most interested. thanks

&gt; &gt;peace

&gt; &gt;sarah

&gt; &gt;finally "icebiking" in kansas city

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&gt;Message: 7

&gt;Reply-To:

&gt;From: "Alan"

&gt;To:

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:43:50 -0800

&gt;Subject: [CR]RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima

&gt;

&gt;Mark (and others)

&gt;

&gt;Remember the brown metallic 1964 "competizione" that was for sale at last

&gt;spring's Great Western Bike Rally? In my size BTW - another one I let slip

&gt;through my fingers!

&gt;

&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;I have always thought that the Specialissima and the Competizione came in

&gt;the same colors, which I believe, but can not prove, were black, white,

&gt;celeste, and candy-blue, -red, &amp; -green.&lt;&lt;&lt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;Alan Cline

&gt;Technical Sales

&gt;CoMotion Cycles

&gt;4765 Pacific Ave.

&gt;Eugene, OR 97402

&gt;

&gt;(541)342-4583 FAX 342-2210

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&gt;mailto:alan@co-motion.com

&gt;

&gt;Check out our new FAQ page on the web site!!!

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&gt;Message: 8

&gt;From: OROBOYZ@aol.com

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:07:57 EST

&gt;To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;Subject: [CR]San Antonio tomorrow...

&gt;

&gt;I am making a last minute dash out to BREC (Bicycle Retailers Education

&gt;Conference) this weekend.. Will I see any of you there?

&gt;I will have a day to fiddle around and of course would like to visit some

&gt;bike shops. Recommendations? Of course with an emphasis on classic

&gt;lightweights....

&gt;

&gt;Thanks

&gt;Dale

&gt;

&gt;Dale Brown

&gt;cycles de ORO, Inc.

&gt;1410 Mill Street

&gt;Greensboro, North Carolina

&gt;USA 27408

&gt;336-274-5959

&gt;Fax 336-274-6360

&gt; cyclesdeORO.com

&gt; Classic Rendezvous

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&gt;Message: 9

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:12:35 -0800 (PST)

&gt;From: Fred Rafael Rednor

&gt;Reply-To: fred_rednor@yahoo.com

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]Herse on Ebay

&gt;To: Takao Noda ,

&gt; Classic Bike List

&gt;

&gt; &gt; I have heard that Japanese collectors cannot very

&gt; &gt; proudly show off their bikes which they couldn't

&gt; &gt; ride beautifully , even if they seldom ride them.

&gt;Is it likely that he would bring the frame to a Japanese

&gt;builder and have a "duplicate" made in a smaller size?

&gt;Of course the decals wouldn't say Rene Herse"...

&gt; Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia

&gt;

&gt;__________________________________________________

&gt;Do You Yahoo!?

&gt;Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions!

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&gt;Message: 10

&gt;From: Philcycles@aol.com

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:14:43 EST

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima

&gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;In a message dated 1/30/02 10:01:46 AM, alan@co-motion.com writes:

&gt;

&gt;&lt;&lt; Remember the brown metallic 1964 "competizione" that was for sale at last

&gt;

&gt;spring's Great Western Bike Rally? In my size BTW - another one I let slip

&gt;

&gt;through my fingers!

&gt;

&gt;

&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;I have always thought that the Specialissima and the Competizione came in

&gt;

&gt;the same colors, which I believe, but can not prove, were black, white,

&gt;

&gt;celeste, and candy-blue, -red, &amp; -green.&lt;&lt;&lt;

&gt;

&gt; &gt;&gt;

&gt;

&gt;I've seen brown, bright green, red and Celeste.

&gt;Phil Brown

&gt;NoHo, Ca

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&gt;

&gt;Message: 11

&gt;From: "Ray Coffey"

&gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:20:31 -0500

&gt;Subject: [CR]wool jerseys on eBay

&gt;

&gt;Casati size medium jersey: http://ebay.com/<blah>

&gt;

&gt;Lambertini jersey with front pockets(!), size medium: http://ebay.com/<blah>

&gt;

&gt;No connection to sellers, too small for me, thought they were nifty.

&gt;

&gt;Ray Coffey

&gt;Boston, Mass.

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