[CR]New/old on list and the same old question

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 18:29:05 +0200
Thread-Topic: New/old on list and the same old question
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From: "Johan Ericson" <johan@logicoffice.se>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR]New/old on list and the same old question

Hello fellow retrocyclists

I have just picked up my bicycle hobby again. Was on this list a couple of years ago but my interest for vintage boats took over and I fell out. Now I am back on track.

As last time I start with an appology. If my English seems a little strange it is because it is not my native language.

Last time around I also asked a question about a Colnago (?) frame. I know you are not suppoused to post the same things over and over again but since it was such a long time ago I hope You all can accept it.

This was my question then (and now): "It has been repainted a long time ago and the front fork is missing. It has no shifter bosses, no brake cable guides and the gear cable guides are at top of the bottom bracket shell. Long chromed Campagnolo dropouts. I have two Colnagos, one -73 and one -74, and so far this frame has the same features. But this one has chrome head lugs and clover/club cut outs in both of them. Plus a clover/club cut out in the seatlug. The bottom bracket shells on my other Colnagos has a big clover/club cut outs but this one has two or three slot cut outs instead. The seat stay caps are also diffrent. My Colnagos have "inverted(I am not sure of the correct name)" nonscript caps while this one has oval, flat caps - no clover/club or Colnago script on either. The frame has brazed on waterbottle mounts (one bottle) with pointed reinforcements and the others just have plain round mounts.

The frame is very well put together, very light and all lugs nicely thinned. Brazing looks good to from what little I can see.

Now to the really strange - the clovers/clubs are done different. Instead of a triangular "shaft" under the three circles, making out the leaves, this one has the shaft made out of a straight cut out finished of with a small round hole at the bottom. As if someone prepared it to make it triangular but forgot filing and left it as it was.

Any leads on what it is? "

Regards
Johan Ericson
Stockholm, Sweden