Now THIS is good stuff. Very interesting. Phil stuff has alway bugged me anyway, especially when used to replace BB's and hubs on formerly full-NR bikes. Not an upgrade, IMHO. I see Phil stuff as the grandaddy of the silly 1990's MTB-fueled low volume, high dollar CNC junk turned out in industrial parks all over the US, as though CNC'd billet cranks were huge improvement on Shimano's forged stuff. There was a Shimano ad in the mid-90's that read something like, "we have a name for our new CNC'd billet bicycle components: Prototype." It went on to explain the production parts were hot pressed or forged to optimize grain structure. Makes sense to me. The best processes are too expensive for low volume manufacturing. Tom Dalton Bethlehem, PA NortonMarg@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/25/02 10:00:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tr4play@cox.net writes:
<< Question is, what are the different iterations and years associated with Phil Wood hubs since their inception? >> Well, his 1st generation hubs would collapse. The flanges would pop off to the center. If you survived the crash, he would give you a brand new set, but he wouldn't recall them. I ran into him at a bike show and asked him about his bb axles breaking. He said that would soon be a thing of the past as he had almost used up all that material and the new stuff was better. His overwhelming concern for the safety of the riders using his products affected me deeply. The only thing of his I will ever use is his spoke threading machine. I don't think I can crash at high speed if that ever breaks on me. Stevan Thomas Alameda, CA _______________________________________________
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