Come on, chaps! You are arguing the wrong issue. If you want to ride, ride. If you want to look, look. But please stop paying ridiculous prices or we really will end up in Ferrari land. Everything on ebay is rare, scarce, collectible, generally as scarce as hen's teeth. Even two a penny AW Sturmey hubs are rare items on ebay. If YOU pay a high price, then soon I won't be able to afford anything and will have to scour the dumps like I did fifty odd years ago finding a wheel here and a frame there. Stuart Tallack on the poorer side of the pond.