Re: [CR]Early Campy Record crank on ebay: new high?

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Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 17:57:35 -0400
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Early Campy Record crank on ebay: new high?
To: Michael Kone <bikevint@tiac.net>, Mark Bulgier <mark@bulgier.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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The Frejus that I sold to Takao Noda has the transition crank if I recall. I have forgotten the serial number but I thought it was from 1963 or so. Any comment Takao?

Joe


----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Kone
To: Mark Bulgier
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: [CR]Early Campy Record crank on ebay: new high?



> Regarding 1st generation Campy crank, I believe contrary to Mark's comments
> that the crank was made this way for more than just a year. My gut feeling
> is that 58, 59, 60, and part of 61 were first generation. I certainly
> could be wrong, but my feeling is that these cranks are actually not as
> rare as people may think (I may be shooting myself in the foot as I've been
> toying with selling one myself). I've come upon bikes that were made in
> either 60 or 61 that had them. That of course is not convincing - but just
> a hunch. There was also a transition crank that had the raised pedal lip
> like the 1st generation but in all other ways was like the typical boxy
> second generation - not sure when that one was made.
>
> Mike Kone in Boulder CO
>
>
>
> At 06:53 PM 5/31/02 -0700, Mark Bulgier wrote:
> >
> >http://ebay.com/<blah>
> >
> >Wes Gadd wrote:
> >> >I never realized that the early cranks had this
> >> >different arm/spider interface. Was this design weaker,
> >> >stronger? Probably more difficult to produce.
> >
> >and Stevan Thomas replied
> >> It's been machined or filed away to eliminate "the crack".
> >> Notice the file marks.
> >
> >I'm pretty sure the '58s came that way from Campy, even though I've never
> >seen one in the flesh. This is the 4th one I've seen on eBay though, and
> >all 4 had that design. By '59 they were shaped like the Campy cranks we all
> >know and love, with that knife-edge between spider and crank. Don't know if
> >it's better or worse.
> >
> >The Stronglight 93 (and um, what was the older one called, 63?) are made
> >like that '58 Campy, or should we say the Campy was made like the
> >Stronglight?.
> >
> >Here's a pic of one I labeled Stronglight 57, but I don't know if that's a
> >model name or a year. (I probably stole the pic off eBay):
> >http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Parts/Stronglight_57_crankset.jpg
> >
> >Mark Bulgier
> >Seattle, Wa
> >USA