Re: [CR]Assault with a deadly weapon?

(Example: Racing:Wayne Stetina)

From: "davebohm" <davebohm@cox.net>
To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Assault with a deadly weapon?
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 18:09:04 -0700


I have to chime in and say that sometimes a little tolerance is the appropriate course of action in these matters. Of course I have had my fair share of incidents while on my bicycle, but nowadays I try and let things slid a little more.

A short story that occurred on my motorcycle once. Guy in a truck tryst to run me off the road. I give him the finger. He follows me but I don't know it and I end up getting pistol whipped with the butt end of a 357 magnum. Really you don't know how crazy someone else can be, just a word of warning.

I would press charges to the fullest extent of the law but my ass kicking days are over.

Dave Bohm Bohemian Bicycles ----- Original Message ----- From: Renaissance Cycles To: Jerry & Liz Moos ; Mark Poore ; Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Assault with a deadly weapon?

Mark:

Sorry but I will respond openly to the list!

Just one little note on handling some people like this if you are confronted with injury!...............I have done this 3 times and it worked for me!.............After all the BS has gone down, every single time the driver pulled up to me on the drivers side! Every time they tried to intimidate me by opening their door making like they were going to come after me calling me this and that!! All 3 times I was off of my bike and kicked off my shoes very quicky! Once that door opened and the driver's leg was planted on the ground, I proceeded to go after that door and ''SLAM!" his own door onto his leg until the ''SOB!" screams bloody murder!

If any of you all end up going this rout, just make sure that you are in the right position to do him! The first go at the door has to be ''DECISIVE!''.................Sorry make that 4 times, I forgot the one time here in Holland! Never assume that they will ride off into the sunset and leave you alone!!..............If not for yourself then do it for the next cyclist!!.................For me when confronting people like this!>>>>>......It's BALLS TO THE WALLS!! ATTACK MODE 110%!!!!!!

You can let him go and perhaps do the same to other cyclist or you can make him think twice! Just my take on handling this type of a problemed child!..............Different strokes for different folks.

BC..................And the gang!!....................Holland!...........Once I threw My Holdsworth into a windshield of a van, I don't take poop from people like this!!................And yes the bike was OK!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry & Liz Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: "Mark Poore" <rauler47@hotmail.com>; <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Assault with a deadly weapon?

> At the risk of being off topic, I think this is important enough to reply to > the list. I would definitely press charges to the max. I once had a guy > lean out the passenger window of a pickup and slap me in the head as he > passed me. I rode to the police station and filed a report immediately. > Unfortunately, I had nothing with me to write down the license number, and > either the one I gave from memory was wrong or the truck had phony plates, > as the police could not match the license number to a vehicle meeting my > description. Had they found this guy, I would have resisted any settlement > that didn't put him in jail. These kinds of drivers deserve to be treated > like the low life criminal scum they are. > > Regards, > > Jerry Moos > Houston, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Poore" <rauler47@hotmail.com> > To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:37 PM > Subject: [CR]Assault with a deadly weapon? > > > Help, need some feedback and opinions on this one. Now I don't want to start > a thread on this subject, as it doesn't follow the guidelines that Dale has > setup, but I do believe that everyone on this list has had experiences with > irresponsible drivers to one degree or another in their years of cycling. So > with that in mind I hope Dale will overlook this posting even though it has > nothing to do with vintage bikes, but us as cyclists. > > I will keep this brief and with that in mind leave out many of the details, > like description of the truck and such. > > My wife and I were 1.5 miles from the end of our 25-mile ride yesterday when > a pickup passed us and blew his horn and yelled out something. He must have > turned around in the town we started in and came back. When he spotted me he > came left of center across a double yellow line and ran me off the road. In > seeing his intentions I hit the brakes and locked up my rear wheel leaving a > flat spot on the tire so it is now useless. I got off my bike and the truck > slowed down almost to a stop, still in my lane, and then must have spotted > my wife just coming around the turn about 200 yards behind me and then hit > the gas and got in his lane and went on. When we got home I called the State > Police and gave them as much information about the truck as possible and > told them I wanted to press charges and find out his insurance carrier and > let them know about this incident with one of their policy holders. In > talking to a friend on the mountain today I related what happened and he > asked what the truck looked like and he said it sounded like one of the > young guys that work on the mountain for one of the condo associations. So > with that I went to our Public Safety department and talked to on of the > officers. Darrel told me the same thing that it sounded like this fellow > that worked for the Summit condo association. I told Darrel that I wanted > to press charges if it was this fellow and I wanted the charges to be > assault with a deadly weapon. He felt that would be appropriate considering > what took place. My wife is concerned about the possible repercussion, but > it doesn't bother me in the least. My question to the list is what would you > do in this situation? I might add that this isn't the first time this kid > has had a complaint against him for his driving, but none this serious, but > not too far off. I feel if proper action isn't taken he will end up killing > someone. > > Please let's keep this off list and respond to my e-mail address only. > > Oh, by the way, I was riding the Tommasini. > > Mark, still a little shaken', Poore > > Slatyfork, W VA > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Classicrendezvous mailing list > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org > http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous > > > > _______________________________________________ > Classicrendezvous mailing list > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org > http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous >

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