Re: [CR]Debunking ...

(Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi)

In-Reply-To: <B9217F19.16946%stevens@veloworks.com>
References:
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 20:03:55 -0700
To: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "Brandon Ives" <monkeylad@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Debunking ...


At 8:16 PM -0600 6/3/02, Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
>And here I thought "debunking" was getting out of bad ...
>
>It's like this ... steel is real ... aluminium sucks ... the thread is dead.
>
>Move on, please.

What did I start here, damn. Anyway here is a little research for anyone who still cares.

Damon Rinard has already done many of the tests. http://sheldonbrown.com/rinard_frametest.html Damon's other tests http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/

Bob Brown's analysis of tube deflection. http://bobbrowncycles.netfirms.com/eng.htm

Here's something I hadn't seen until I did a search. http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/framedesign.html

Tony Hadland's science links http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/#science

Add the above info to this bicycle power output formulae on this page and you can find most of the losses people keep debating. http://www.mystrobl.de/ws/fahrrad/bikepwr.htm

Now as the person who gave birth to this dead horse I'm going to go stand in the corner with Steven before I start in on the reasons behind butted tubing.

enjoy, Brandon"monkey(everything's an issue)man"Ives