No, they're not. We covered this very recently!
Greg Parker A2 MI USA
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:33:27 -0600
> Subject: Re: [CR]My Rivendell's pictures
> From: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> I'm sorry, but aren't Rivendell frames off-topic for this newsgroup? After
> all, there were no Rivendells made before 1983.