[CR]Re: Dream mix-n-match gruppo


Example: Racing:Beryl Burton

From: "kevin gosney" <kevingosney10@hotmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 04:44:11 +0000
Subject: [CR]Re: Dream mix-n-match gruppo

Gang,

Just for kicks, imagine yourself in charge of your favorite Euro team of the 70s-early 80s. Campy and Shimano don't exist, but all of the other small players do. If sponsorship was not a deciding factor, how would you spec the team road bikes to last a season? Choose any mix of components from among, but not limited to the following: Mavic, Modolo, OMAS, Edco (dubied), Gipiemme, TTT, Maillard, Berrelli, Simplex, Everest, Zeus,CLB, Galli, Fiamme, ITM, MAFAC, Stronglight, Nervar, Universal, Nisi, Martano. Assos...... Just curious.....

Kevin, "can you ever had too much Campagnolo NR/SR stuff?" Gosney

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&gt; 1. Re BSA HUB (Helen Macvean)

&gt; 2. Ebay outing (Steven Sweedler)

&gt; 3. Re: DNP components?? (Bob Reid)

&gt; 4. Re: Campagnolo question (Hugh Thornton)

&gt; 5. Re: Campagnolo question (Fred Rafael Rednor)

&gt; 6. Falcon-built Merckx on eBay (youngc@NetReach.Net)

&gt; 7. Old Peugeots (Art Smith)

&gt; 8. for sale (Richard M Sachs)

&gt; 9. Re: Falcon-built Merckx on eBay (David Benson)

&gt; 10. celestial origins? (cecilio felix)

&gt; 11. Used Bike Buyers Guide--B (LouDeeter@aol.com)

&gt; 12. Help (Doug Smith)

&gt; 13. Re: Used Bike Buyers Guide--B (Jerry &amp; Liz Moos)

&gt; 14. Wanted: NR Headset circa 1970 (Guy Apple)

&gt; 15. Toni Merkens track stem (feldman)

&gt; 16. Mavic Mod. E2 vs E3 (Eric Elman)

&gt; 17. WTB: campagnolo chainring fixing bolt (Roadgiant@cs.com)

&gt; 18. The Custom Bicycle..Kolin&amp;de la Rosa...ebay (J.Dunn)

&gt; 19. Re: Mavic Mod. E2 vs E3 (feldman)

&gt; 20. Re: Eisentraut models (kevin gosney)

&gt; 21. Ebay prices, here we go again... (M4Campy)

&gt; 22. FS: 52cm early 80's Calif. Masi (Paulie Davis)

&gt; 23. Re: Re: Eisentraut models (feldman)

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&gt;Message: 1

&gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:04:30 +0000

&gt;From: Helen Macvean

&gt;To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" ,

&gt; "reclassicbikes@aol.com"

&gt;Subject: [CR]Re BSA HUB

&gt;

&gt;This is what is known as the "DP" gear, as in "dual purpose". One toggle

&gt;chain operated the two speed gear and the other moved the hub from fixed

&gt;to free.

&gt;This is a very rare hub and I have only seen one other. They were made

&gt;sometime in the mid1930s and from all accounts were not a succsess. Even

&gt;rarer still are the shifters (2) that goes with it . These were the

&gt;normal banjo type but a two speed adptation.

&gt;I think BSA also offered a handle bar shifters too

&gt;

&gt;Regards Pete Paine

&gt;

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&gt;

&gt;Message: 2

&gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:08:03 -0500

&gt;From: Steven Sweedler

&gt;Reply-To: sweedler@mail.plymouth.edu

&gt;Organization: Plymouth State College

&gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;Subject: [CR]Ebay outing

&gt;

&gt;Here's one of the Cycling History texts. Thought it would be of interest. only 5

&gt;hours left. Steve

&gt;http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1060159695

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&gt;Message: 3

&gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:53:36 +0000

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]DNP components??

&gt;From: Bob Reid

&gt;To: ,

&gt; classicrendezvous

&gt;

&gt;In short - don't touch them - they are pure Junk

&gt;

&gt;The only company to make Hyperglide compatible freewheels that don't index.

&gt;Out and out Junk either way.......

&gt;

&gt;Sorry if I've offended DNP fans !

&gt;

&gt;Bob Reid

&gt;Stonehaven

&gt;Scotland

&gt;

&gt; &gt; From:

&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:35:28 -0500

&gt; &gt; To: classicrendezvous

&gt; &gt; Subject: [CR]DNP components??

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; What the heck are DNP components? I acquired a box of old Bike JUNK from a guy

&gt; &gt; and while coursing through this box I have come across only a few usable

&gt; &gt; items. There were some skewers, mostly skewer pieces, a Suntour bar-con

&gt; &gt; shifter (only one), many bits and pieces of suntour derailleurs (enough to

&gt; &gt; make one freaksish looking but non working derailleur), a Celeste T.A. bottle

&gt; &gt; cage, and the only derailleurs not broken are these DNP derailleurs. They look

&gt; &gt; like expendable JUNK. Are they?

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; Walt

&gt; &gt; Falls Creek, Pa

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&gt;Message: 4

&gt;From: "Hugh Thornton"

&gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo question

&gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:23:02 -0500

&gt;

&gt;You may be right about the Pista cranks, but that is not my experience:

&gt;however mine are currently at the bottom of a shipping crate and it will be

&gt;a while before I can dig them out. Mine are the earlier 144mm BCD and were

&gt;fitted to a 60's Condor Barracchi with the rest being standard Nuovo Record

&gt;road group. Both cranks are marked Pista. However, I decided to fit double

&gt;chainwheels so swapped the Pista Cranks for Strada cranks of the same

&gt;vintage and did not have to change the axle. The cranks looked pretty much

&gt;the same and if the axle had been much shorter, the chainwheel on the Pista

&gt;cranks would have rubbed the chainstays -- in fact it was close enough that

&gt;i assumed the Strada inner ring would rub, so I didn't bother to try it

&gt;until I had got hold of a new bottom bracket, which I ended up not using.

&gt;

&gt;Hugh Thornton

&gt;nr Crewe UK

&gt;

&gt;

&gt; &gt;From: "Questor"

&gt; &gt;Reply-To: "Questor"

&gt; &gt;To: "Tom Hayes"

&gt; &gt;CC: "classicrendezvous"

&gt; &gt;Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo question

&gt; &gt;Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:42:36 -0500

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;Hi Tom,

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;Campy "Pista" cranks were specifically built for track use and have

&gt; &gt;different shapes to save weight and allow closer mounting to the frame.

&gt; &gt;This is also why Pista axles are narrower that Strada axles - to save

&gt; &gt;weight.

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;Regards, Steve Neago

&gt; &gt;"Enjoying sunny breakfast time in Cincinnati, OH"

&gt; &gt;----- Original Message -----

&gt; &gt;From: "Tom Hayes"

&gt; &gt;To:

&gt; &gt;Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:07 AM

&gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]Campagnolo question

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt; Is the left arm of a Campagnolo Pista crankset (undated) supposed to be

&gt; &gt; &gt; marked Pista as the right side is? And if it is, what is the difference

&gt; &gt; &gt; between a Pista left arm and a "regular" one?

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt; Thank you.

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers.

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt; Tom

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt; Tom Hayes

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&gt;

&gt;Message: 23

&gt;From: "feldman"

&gt;To: "kevin gosney" ,

&gt;

&gt;Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models

&gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:03:49 -0800

&gt;

&gt;The "Limited" was the "model B" as I remember them, there were touring as

&gt;well as racing models and the dealer near me that sold them at the time

&gt;didn't get any printed specs--but in the 1970's that was pretty standard

&gt;practice anyway.

&gt;

&gt;David Feldman

&gt;Vancouver, WA

&gt;----- Original Message -----

&gt;From: "kevin gosney"

&gt;To:

&gt;Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:38 PM

&gt;Subject: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models

&gt;

&gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; Gang,

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; Kevin, "formerly residing in Latin America", Gosney is back on.

&gt;Got a question regarding frames from Albert Eisentraut. In the late 70's

&gt;what where the differences between the "Model A' and "Model B" frames .

&gt;I've owned a "LIMITED" so understand that specification, but am at a loss

&gt;regarding tubing, geometry, lugs, and original price differences between A &amp;

&gt;B.

&gt; &gt; Any help out there?

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; Thanks, Cold but dry in Oregon

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; Kevin

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&gt; &gt; &gt; 3. New Depature 2 speed hub year/ (Phil)

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&gt; &gt; &gt; 4. FS bicycle models cont'd (roy roberts)

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&gt; &gt; &gt; 5. Vintage Tire renewal &amp; restoration info needed (Questor)

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&gt; &gt; &gt; 7. DNP components?? (wspokes@penn.com)

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:33:37 -0800 (PST)

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&gt; &gt; &gt;From: roy roberts

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]bicycle models legnano, bartalli, binda,

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&gt; &gt; &gt;From: REClassicBikes@aol.com

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:57:37 EST

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&gt; &gt; &gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]Due to the great response, here are a few more for sale

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&gt; &gt; &gt;aero centre pull type. These are used, but the callipers are in good

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&gt;you would

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:46:04 -0500

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]New Depature 2 speed hub year/

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Anyone know what year New departure came out with 2 speed hub and top

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:39:49 -0800 (PST)

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&gt; &gt; &gt;From: roy roberts

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&gt; &gt; &gt;To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]FS bicycle models cont'd

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Reply-To: "Questor"

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&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;From: "Questor"

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;To: "classicrendezvous"

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&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:31:18 -0500

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]Vintage Tire renewal &amp; restoration info needed

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Hello,

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;I have obtained a late 70's Campy tubular LF wheel set that has

&gt;original =

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Clement Criterium tires. The tires still hold air, but the casing is =

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;apparently rubber coated that has discolored with age. =20

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;Are there any suggestions on how I can clean up the discoloration =

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;without damaging the tires casing or its original color? I may be =

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;wrong, but it seems that current tubular tires do not have this

&gt;problem =

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;over time... could there have been a manufacturing change? =20

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;What cleaner/preservative should I use in the future to make

&gt;reasonably =

&gt; &gt;

&gt; &gt; &gt;sure this discoloration does not come back?

&gt; &gt;

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:31:02 -0500

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]CR jerseys?

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&gt; &gt; &gt;How is the tally on the CR jerseys coming along?

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&gt; &gt; &gt;I have obtained a late 70's Campy tubular LF wheel set that has

&gt;original Clement Criterium tires. The tires still hold air, but the casing

&gt;is apparently rubber coated that has discolored with age.

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Are there any suggestions on how I can clean up the discoloration

&gt;without damaging the tires casing or its original color? I may be wrong, but

&gt;it seems that current tubular tires do not have this problem over time...

&gt;could there have been a manufacturing change?

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&gt; &gt; &gt;What cleaner/preservative should I use in the future to make

&gt;reasonably sure this discoloration does not come back?

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Thanks, Steve Neago

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:35:28 -0500

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&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: [CR]DNP components??

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&gt; &gt; &gt;What the heck are DNP components? I acquired a box of old Bike JUNK

&gt;from a guy and while coursing through this box I have come across only a few

&gt;usable items. There were some skewers, mostly skewer pieces, a Suntour

&gt;bar-con shifter (only one), many bits and pieces of suntour derailleurs

&gt;(enough to make one freaksish looking but non working derailleur), a Celeste

&gt;T.A. bottle cage, and the only derailleurs not broken are these DNP

&gt;derailleurs. They look like expendable JUNK. Are they?

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