Re: [CR]Re: E-Bay trashing and e-bay in general (fwd)

(Example: Racing:Roger de Vlaeminck)

From: <nickzz@mindspring.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: E-Bay trashing and e-bay in general (fwd)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 15:41:59 -0400

I feel honesty & integrity are of utmost importance in any business relationship.However the responsibility is a two way street & most definitely includes the buyer.No seller can MAKE the buyer pull the trigger on a purchase.The buyer is the only one who makes that call.One needs to be comfortable that he has gathered the amount of verification he feels necessary to pull the trigger.

Nick Zatezalo

Atlanta,Ga

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:12:59 -0700 Jan Heine <heine@mindspring.com> wrote:


> I strongly believe that one has the right to be
> critical of other
> people's efforts. I am no framebuilder, but I
> still can criticise
> some bikes that are poorly done.
>
> I don't think Dale would turn anybody away who
> wants to join the CR
> list, so the sellers could join and defend
> their auctions, if they
> like.
>
> Even if the sellers are not present, we can
> talk about them. Just
> like I can criticise the government's war plans
> among friends without
> asking the government to attend.
>
> Finally, I don't like the "buyer beware"
> policy. When you bid on an
> e-bay item, you have a description and a few
> photos. If you assume
> that the photos show the best side and omit the
> problems, and
> likewise for the description, you cannot buy
> anything. The same for
> other stuff listed on the net - often without a
> photo at all. So
> "buyer beware" means that you only buy locally
> what you can inspect
> in person.
>
> So, e-bay is based on trust. Bad listings,
> intentional or not,
> destroy the whole process. Sure, you could
> travel to see the bike in
> question, but the cost is such that it is not
> worth while in most
> cases. (Spend $ 800 to find out that a $ 650
> bike isn't what you
> thought it was? You might as well buy it and
> throw it in the garbage
> if it doesn't turn out, and still save $ 150.)
>
> One of the reasons e-bay is so successful here,
> and not in my
> original home country of Germany is that people
> here are more honest
> with their descriptions, while Germans very
> much feel "Buyer beware."
> "You didn't ask whether this particular flaw
> was present, so I didn't
> have to tell you" seems to be the prevailing
> thought among many
> Germans.
>
> Just my thoughts, of course.
>
> Jan Heine, Seattle
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