Re: [CR]Now:Track QRs Was:Drilled-Out Paramount Hubs?

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To: ABikie@aol.com
Cc: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Now:Track QRs Was:Drilled-Out Paramount Hubs?
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:53:57 -0500

i have a pair of new-in-box, never used nr (r?) track hubs with the pre cpsc curved qr's and hollow axles. completely box stock. late 60s vintage, i believe. e-RICHIE (twizzlersaholic) Richard Sachs Cycles No.9, North Main Street Chester, CT 06412 USA http://www.richardsachs.com Tel. 860.526.2059

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:17:49 EST ABikie@aol.com writes:
> Even al ol' rider of the boards, Schwinn Paramount dealer from the
> 60's, and
> owner of several dozen P13's and P14's can learn something!
>
> After checking through several dozen boxes of new Pista and Strada
> hubs and
> pouring through bins of loose used ones, I have not found any Pista
> hubs with
> a QR!
>
> It used to be easy to spot a 'converted' QR track hub, but even a
> savvt
> counterfeiter could make a strong case.
> Installing a QR axle set and skewer would allow a track hub to have
> QR, and
> many of us used those on our fixed gear commuters.
>
> On the tracks on which I've competed, Lehigh most often, QR was
> absolutely
> banned, even with hose clamps, duct tape, and even the 'leverless QR
> units
> like HiE that used a relieved and specially-machined dropout, like a
> positive
> retention device on a road fork.
>
> The Pista hubs had no oil clip,the Strada hub did.
> While the rear Pista hub had left-hend lockring threads, it was
> distinguishable.
> The front would rely just on the presence and absence of the oil
> clip.
>
> In my search I found one abnormality.
> I found a new tape-sealed box of Pista 36 hole HF hubs with factory
> oil
> clips!!
>
> It was easy to add an oil clip to a hub - drill a small hole and
> snap on a
> clip.
>
> Some counterfeiters would do this to a Tipo hub (that never had oil
> clips)
> when the Tipo had the kidney-shaped flange holes, but most tipos had
> round
> holes
>
> I would like to know a third new bit of info iof someone is perusing
> the
> catalogs:
> when did the Tipo's have the kidney holes?
>
> If anyone gets a chance, please post a scan of these, especially of
> the Pista
> QR!
>
> I am still in disbelief
>
> Larry 'SuperNouvoHolic"Black