thought this might be of interest to those who had been postulating on the dropouts on that ebay taylor tourer...
-joel
>From: "norris lockley" <norris.lockley@totalise.co.uk>
>To: <magpie@messengers.org>
>Subject: Jack Taylor Touring bike on Ebay - rear drop-out
>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 01:30:50 -0000
>
>Joel Metz.
>
>I have been following the emails on the CR List about the two Jack
>Taylor bikes, currently on Ebay. I think that it was you who first
>raised the query about the odd looking rear drop-out and gear
>hanger, and various members have added their bits and pieces of
>wisdom, knowledge etc to the debate.
>
>As has been noted by several emails, the Taylor brothers often
>produced some idiosyncratic frames, using a mixture of out-of date
>frame parts, and in this context the use of Cyclo gears has been
>mentioned. Based on a reasonable working knowledge of the Taylors
>and having owned a few of their frames, I suggest that the drop-outs
>in question are none other than a pair of CYCLO Model 372 rear
>verticals. Pictures of these are to be found in the Cyclo catalogue,
>Nos 50 and 50A. The price in 1951 was 1 shilling per pair.
>
>The Taylors were very fond of "all things French" and I recall
>seeing them, racing as a team. in the 1949 Brighton to Glasgow stage
>race in the UK. They all used Super Champion Osgear rear mechs. The
>Cyclo Ace, a similar type of gear, was also often used by the
>Taylors. Both these gears could be used with the vertical drop-outs.
>In the Jack Taylor catalogue for the early 50s, the "Tourist" model
>is shown with a chainstay-mounted derailleur - the Huret light
>tourist model being mentioned in the description. This gear also
>worked well with vertical drop-outs. You will recall that the curved
>seat tube Taylor frame on Ebay also used Cyclo drop-outs, but on the
>front forks. I have a Helyett "Jacques Anquetil" frame that also
>used Cyclo front drop-outs. They were very popular at the time. The
>polished aluminium "hanger" is just something that a competent
>fitter has made to adapt the modern gear to the very vertical
>drop-outs which did not have a cut-out in them. They could therefore
>be drilled to take a nut and bolt quite readily.
>
>If you find this of interest to the List members - I am not yet a
>member - please feel free to post it.
>
>Bye for now
>
>Norris Lockley
>
>
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