RE: [CR]hetchins/mark joynt

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From: "Dave Patrick" <Patrick@aardvark-pro.com>
To: <LouDeeter@aol.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]hetchins/mark joynt
In-Reply-To: <6D27AF9A.7D698A7C.0269AA25@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 14:14:28 -0500

Lou,

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you regarding Mark having the legal high ground. I just don't see it. OK, he registered the name "Hetchins Cycles Ltd." within the U.K., but does that mean he owns the rights to make Hetchins bikes? I just don't think so. He has the rights to that specific name only. But you may be right about one thing, and that's about the market place determining who makes the official Hetchins bicycles. Based on my off-list emails since I wrote yesterday, David Miller seems to be winning 23 to 2. Not a bad spread, if I do say so myself. Perhaps we need to sit back and see how long Mark Joynt can realistically keep building Hetchins bicycles, from a financial perspective. To me, he faces quite an uphill battle. A good holiday to you also.

Dave Patrick Chelsea, Michigan

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of LouDeeter@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:02 PM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]hetchins/mark joynt

Wow, I haven't seen such venom on the CR list since last time we talked about this subject. Obvious to me that Mark may have the legal high ground here even if some people don't want to grant him the moral high ground. You certainly have to give him credit for being smart enough to figure it out, even if you don't like the outcome. Seems that isn't the issue right now, only whether he has owned up properly to the "paper trail" of how he ended up with the legal name to use Hetchins in the first place. Not my area to judge, but in the spirit of our (that's U.S.A. guys/gals) national holiday tomorrow, I'm just thankful that we still have bicycle frames being made in the "old style" with Hetchins decals and I'm not going to worry too much about who owns the rights to it. The buyer can surely make the decision of which Hetchins to purchase, even if the differences do make things somewhat difficult. Hey, I've even seen a Hetchins replica made in Southern California!! I'm sure that had the CR list been around in the late 70s, early 80s, we'd be taking sides over the use of the Masi decals too. Happy Thanksgiving all, Lou Deeter, Orlando FL

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