Re: [CR]NOW: this horse is different:was:This horse is dead

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From: "goodrichbikes" <goodrichbikes@netzero.net>
To: <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]NOW: this horse is different:was:This horse is dead
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 13:44:47 -0600

Chuck, I'm not quite sure it's that simple. Sure Lance or any other four time Tour winner rides whatever he wants but for the most part, the pros ride what they are given. You are correct in that they probably want the latest greatest but most ride what the sponsor hands them. Sponsors hand them bikes that they want to sell in the marketplace. I think they call that advertising. Andy Hampsten's last year as a pro, Banesto handed him a 22# steel road bike. He rode it because they paid him to. I completely agree that the days of lugged steel frames are essentially gone from the pro peleton but I don't believe the agent of change was the riders. It was the manufacturers of the bicycles that created the change. There's nothing sinister about it, just capitalism.

Curt Goodrich Bicycles
607 NE 22nd Ave.
Minneapolis, MN 55418
612.788.6812


----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Schmidt
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]NOW: this horse is different:was:This horse is dead



> Richard Rose wrote:
> >
> > Chuck,
> > What I meant, and what I thought e-richie meant was that this has nothing to
> > do with what the pro's "want" to ride. What I mean is that Lance may care
> > about grams, but he would still have won the last 4 tours on a slightly
> > heavier bike. I understand they do not want to ride lugged steel bikes, but
> > that does not mean they could not still use them & win.
> > Richard Rose (Toledo, Ohio)
> > P.S. I think this horse is slightly different
>
> In a game of what-if I guess maybe Lance could have won on my 1955
> Gillott road with the Fleur de Lys lugs. The possibilities are endless.
>
> The point is that the lugged steel frame is extinct in the pro peloton.
> And it has nothing to do with "marketing."
>
> "Here Lance, ride this, it is slightly heavier... but it looks beautiful
> in the sunlight doesn't it?"
>
> Chuck "different horses for different courses" Schmidt
> SoPas, SoCal
>
>
> .
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