Re: [CR]How about an easier way to make a lugged frame? frame builders?

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From: "Brian Baylis" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]How about an easier way to make a lugged frame? frame builders?
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Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 09:39:41 -0800


You know, I used to think about doing that back in the early 70's. At the time adhesive technology required that the gap between tube and lug be quite consistant. I never got past that particular requirement before I got distracted and ended not thinking about doing that until now. Provide the GOO and I'll stick an "experimental" frame together. I think we'll use a standard brazed fork until I see how tough the frame is. The only problem I see is that if a joint fails it is likely to be a catastrosphic failier. That might be a bit "dangerous". Gentle testing at first, not to exceed 80 mph on the downhills ;-)!

I'm game. Lets do it. I think brazeing the dropouts at first also.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA I've brazed my fingers together several times; this could be even easier to stick the fingers together.

> I have been reading the discussion of if a lugged frame is still OK for pro
> level racing. I came up with some thoughts. The newer tig welded and
> aluminum frames are quicker and easier to assemble than a lugged frame
> (true)? I have a question for the frame builders out there. 3M and some
> other manufacturers are making a metal to metal adhesive for auto body
> repair. You can use on a structural member on a unibody car such as a
> quarter panel, a roof, a door skin and it is as strong as a weld. These
> parts take quite a load and are stressed as you drive. Could we put bonding
> adhesive between the tubes and the lugs making it quick, inexpensive and
> idiot proof (compared to welding) no heat would mean stronger tubes -- who
> wants to give it a try? Sam DiBartolomeo Riverside, CA