Re: [CR]Re: Need help with dating Bottecchia

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From: "Fredrick Yavorsky" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Need help with dating Bottecchia
In-reply-to: <007901c2a1e7$167be1d0$871c27d9@MIKE>
To: Mike Waite <>, "" <>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:49:52 -0500

Mike, The Bottecchia's that I owned in the early 70's had the decals (stickers, really) that referred to the 66 World Championship and the 64-67 Italian Championships as part of the graphics. The Professional and Giro d"Italia models had the Campagnolo dropouts and were made with Columbus tubing. Here are some photos of a 1973 Bottecchia "Special" which was their mid-range steel frame model: Their bikes in the early 1970s had the model name in a gold script decal between those two checkerboard stickers on the top tube. Any photos of your frame to share? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA

on 12/12/02 9:02 AM, Mike Waite at wrote:
> Hi listers,
> Before I start putting equipment onto this frame, are there any experts on
> the list who can help me date it please?
> Frame has original paint and decals.
> Wheelbase 40 1/4 inches at shortest position in Campag road ends which have
> adjusters and fender fittings.
> Rear ends 120mm
> Seat pin 27mm
> No add-on brazings
> Decals as follows:
> Seat tube: Oval 'Carnielli' (top of tube)
> 'Campione Del Mondo 1966' (top of 'Bottecchia'
> panel )
> 'Campione Italiano 1964-65-66-67' (bottom of
> panel)
> 'Made in Italy' (bottom of tube)
> Top tube two black and white chequer decals
> Down tube 'Bottecchia' panel as seat tube with same two 'Campione'
> parts
> Chrome Front and Rear ends (6 inches)
> Chrome Headlugs and Fork crown
> Head badge is rivetted with brass rivets and appears to be made of brass.
> There is no tubing identification.
> At the moment I'm thinking it could be anytime after 1967, but if someone
> can give me a latest date that would be very helpful.
> Thanks
> Mike Waite