As it turns out, I've got one more copy of the Frejus brochure. If anyone else wants one, contact me off list.
The copies turned out beautifully. Ain't technology wonderful! (Oops, wrong group,. You must like classic 60s era copiers.)
For those who already contacted me, I should get those in the mail today or Monday.
Bill Howard 89 Arvine Heights Rochester, NY 14611
Residence: 585-436-2573 Cell: 585-733-5903 Fax: 585-279-0495
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1. Re: Re: Coppi film/BVVW (John Pergolizzi) 2. Sixties Masi Special eBay outing (Chuck Schmidt) 3. 1973 Shimano Dura Ace group NOS (The Maaslands) 4. Re: Brooks B.17 Pro date? (Chuck Schmidt) 5. Re: CLB 'til When? (iBook) 6. RE: Sixties Masi Special eBay outing (David Bilenkey) 7. Regina Oro freewheel date? (Chuck Schmidt) 8. Re: Regina Oro freewheel date? (Steve Neago) 9. Re: torque values - be careful not to overtorque! (Steve Neago) 10. Cinelli restoration and serial numbers (Jay Sexton) 11. Re: Re: Coppi film (DavidS4410@aol.com) 12. Warning: Ebay Outing - Richard Sachs Frame, Flawless (J.S. Villaluz) 13. Coppi film, Il grande Fausto (Bike Works NYC) 14. ........whatever happened to the Raleigh girl? (eBay item 2150493975) (GRIFFKS@aol.com) 15. Re: Regina Oro freewheel date? (Chuck Schmidt) 16. RE: Frejus Brochure (Mark Bulgier) 17. Chesini frame (Johan Ericson) 18. Caps on Ebay (LouDeeter@aol.com) 19. Seeking Ted Kirkbride (r cielec) 20. RE: ........whatever happened to the Raleigh girl? (eBay item 2150493975) (Beyer Jr., Chris (C.C.)) 21. I: [CR]Sixties Masi Special eBay outing (The Maaslands) 22. Re: I: [CR]Sixties Masi Special eBay outing (firstname.lastname@example.org) 23. Re: Regina Oro freewheel date? (DavidS4410@aol.com) 24. Anyone seen this? (Mark Poore) 25. RE: CLB Ti(?) Brakeset (Kurt Sperry)
Message: 1 From: "John Pergolizzi" <email@example.com> To: "David Perry" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Coppi film/BVVW Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:50:52 -0500
The next meeting of The BVVW (Brooklyn Vintage Velodrome Wheelmen), which is a tangent of Gruppo Sportivo Pergolizzi, will meet some time in early January. A spot w/ working VCR and TV is avail. (Mike Lebron apt.?). However the Omnipotent despot/Gran Pubah will be in sunny San Diego recharging his sprint as of Jan. 3'03 untill the end of March. Sooooo...if Italian is gonna be translated and amma gonna do it, then ...its gotta be ..Thursday January 2,2003. @5:30 ?
How's that? How long is the "show"? Bring all your Coppi stuff; bikes, jerseys(Brent?),books,pics.
> I have access to a copy on VHS NTS tape.
> Copied when cast on RAI c.1996.
> It's a great show, great story, great credits.
> Somewhat convincing totally classic content.
> Italian interpreter needed.
> The TV at Bike Works is nice, but the VCR eats tape.
> How about viewing at G.S. Pergolizzi meeting,
> better yet, get place for the rollers, too.
> Dave Perry
> Bike Works NYC
> NYC and Bklyn
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Seeking Ted Kirkbride
Does anyone have an e-mail address for Ted Kirkbride? I am researching outside the time limits of the CR list.
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Griff, et al:
The Raleigh Girl is safely ensconced on my dining room wall. Acid-free mounting and UV-blocking glass will ensure her a long and happy existence.
The tackiness of those frame wraps on the referenced eBay auction would suggest an appropriate paint scheme for a Land Shark.......................
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Anyone seen this?
Skiing wet in Slatyfork, WV
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Message: 25 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:57:02 -0500 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Kurt Sperry) To: email@example.com Subject: [CR]RE: CLB Ti(?) Brakeset
Chuck Schmidt wrote:
I don't believe these are ti. Logically there would be no reason to make them out of titanium. Titanium is heavier than aluminum and CLB makes (made?) aluminum brakes just like everyone else did beginning in the mid-1930s.
I would, however, believe they are 'ti-color' anodized aluminum calipers...
Chuck Schmidt SoPas, SoCal
Another listmember wrote me off-list (I don't know the etiquette here, so I will withhold the name of the sender given that it was sent to me off list):
"These are Ti Calipers. Part of a set of Ti Calipers and Levers that CLB produced in the late 70's (I believe 1978)."
The seller says that they are Ti, they LOOK Ti. As for why one might make a caliper set from Ti, the specific properties of Ti v Al alloys are such that even given Ti's slightly higher density, most anything one can make in Al alloy can in fact be done lighter in Ti alloy if one reduces the volume of metal used to take advantage of Ti's considerably higher (moreso with more modern alloys such as 3Al/2.5V and 6Al/4V which were available if exceedingly uncommon in the '70s) specific strength properties.
On the other hand, it could have been purely marketing driven as well. If I'd known one could have a bought decent functioning Ti alloy brakeset in '78, I probably would have bought one then just for the WOW factor!
If one did a Magistroni or Williams style cottered thin arm crank in good Ti alloy, other than perhaps being a bit flexy, I think it might make a dynamite superlight crank even by modern standards.