Re: [CR] Carlsbad MASI IDs

(Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer)

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:35:27 -0700
From: "Brian Baylis" <rocklube@adnc.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Carlsbad MASI IDs
References: <F1955Qy2LfHxwgxSc6p00014cdb@hotmail.com>


bradford,

Glad someone is keeping track of this. To be honest there are quite a few odd turns that apply to Masi serial numbers. One thing that will help make a mess out of this is the fact that frames got serial numbered as they were sold as opposed to when they were actually made. If 25 frames were made and only 15 were sold; the remainders hung without numbers until an order for a frame that size was specified to be painted a certain color. The early batches got numbered in a less fragmented manner than subsequent runs. It would be interesting to have a LARGE number of Masis in one place at one time so we could take a better wack at sorting out some of these small details. MASI GATHERING anyone??

The frame simply numbered "58" is one built by Keith Lippy as close as I can guess. The details of Masi serial numbers could be enough to drive us nuts (not to mention the people on the list who don't give a rats ass about Masi).

The frame marked "044" is in the "gray zone" of numbers. I will try to sort out the "0" related questions once and for all next time I corner Simonetti and force information out of him. I'm planning a trip north to visit an old friend at which time I'll extract the info.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA Keep an eye on those Masis, Brad. There will be a quiz at the end.


>
> RE: American Masi frames, Brian said:
> "second batch of frames (56cm) began in with the MC bit and the frame size
> and then the serial number above as we normally see"
>
> Brian et al:
>
> My nerdy observation is that the second batch began with MC-serial number,
> with the size above. Watching MC Masis on the web over the past three years
> has resulted in the following sparse data (hope the mail system doesn't
> trash my column formatting):
>
> BB MARKING Fork Crown Seatlug Other
> ---------- ----------- -------- -----------
> A57 1S19 ? ? '73 gruppo
> 58 MC23 twinplate ? repaint red
> 56 MC32 twinplate tang,2holes repaint blue
> 61 MC96 twinplate tang,2holes repaint silver,'70 gruppo
> 172 MC60 twinplate ?
> 186 MC60 twinplate ? 58ccX57cc,170 crank, 11cm stem
> 230 MC54 box tang,2holes pat73, 170 cranks
> 044 MC58 box tang,2holes
> 58 box ? "L.A.W" sticker!
> 0296 MC59 box no holes "American" seattube decals
> ? box no holes Rydjor, "1976", bz-on cable clips
>
> SHAKEY, UNJUSTIFIED CONCLUSIONS FROM SPARSE DATA:
> 1) the first 200 (actually 26 to 225) were all twinplates?
> 2) the first batch of 25 were 57cm, the 2nd 25 were 58cm, the 3rd 25 were
> 56cm, the 5th 25 were 61cm?
> 3) the "MC-size" numbering started at #100 (the 125th bike)?
> 4) bikes after #200 (225th bike) had box-section crowns?
> 5) sometime after the twinplate-to-box switch, the seatlug lost it's extra
> downward-pointing tang with the drilled holes?
> 6) where does the 044 fit in? Does it come after 999?
> 7) where does the '58' fit in?
>
> Brad Stockwell
> "keeping track"
> Palo Alto