Re: [CR]Reviving the spoke crossing thread...

Example: Production Builders:Pogliaghi
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 07:56:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dalton" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Reviving the spoke crossing thread...
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It may be possible to keep things the same at the hub and just rotate the rim around by two holes, to get the desired valve location. If the position is off by one spoke, not two, then the hub is loaded for a right drilled rim and yours is a left-drilled rim, or vice versa, and you have a problem. It depends on which flange the first spoke to the right (or left) of the valve hole is aimed at. One pattern is more common than the other, can't remember which... I know one guy who builds wheels without regard to the valve position, but places the seam so that the spokes pull it closed. On a 32 hole wheel parallel spokes at the valve means parallel spokes at the seam and the seam is therefore not compressed as much, or so he says.... Tom Dalton Bethlehem, PA Mark Poore <> wrote: but back in the '70's I'd heard that 4x or tangential spoking made for a softer ride

There is a difference and purpose in lacing patterns and that is why they have come about. Then there are people that can not notice differences in many things such as lacing patterns, long and short cage shifting performance, red vs. white wine and such.
> Your hubs will be happier if you stick with one lacing pattern.

Before the Cirque I relaced the wheels on my Rauler as I had changed out the rims and wanted to correct a lace pattern that put the valve stem between two spokes that crossed instead of between two that were opened. Not thinking about it I started lacing the wheel and quickly realized that I would have to relace the wheel in the same way that it originally was laced if I didn't want to create new spoke impressions on the hub. These wheels were originally built in Europe and I have seen this lace pattern before on Euro bikes and it leaves me wondering.?

Mark, not trying to reinvent the wheel, Poore

In cool and damp W VA