Re: [CR]Now:Recreations Was:Prod vs Hand Built, reissues

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From: Renaissance Cycles <info@renaissance-cycles.com>
To: "David Feldman" <feldmanbike@yahoo.com>, "Jerry & Liz Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20020707221501.76269.qmail@web20418.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Now:Recreations Was:Prod vs Hand Built, reissues
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 02:08:44 -0700


Well I hate to say, this is not true!! I've visited the Merckx factory several times and I got the full run of this place with Bob, I believe the operations manager and the warehouse manager (Just can't think of his name as of right now!) I saw places where others are not permitted! If there was any of this material to be found I would have seen it, and grabbed it while I was at it!........Flat fork crowns, the warehouse manager turned the warehouse upside down looking for these things..........The only thing he was able to digg up was several chromed forks with these crowns! Believe me when I say there is nothing to be found there is nothing to be found!! I also checked if these forkcrowns were available elsewhere, without any luck. I checked because I had inquiries from frame builders

Bob had people bringing things out of the wood work for me! Yes, I'll want that and no I don't want that!..................This is where I scored 800 plus pairs of NR brake levers with fresh hoods! I found 3 flats of 50 pairs!!.............And I said ''Right on!'' we are happening!!..............Then the warehouse manager says to me!! We................have more!...............Come with me, I will show you!..........He wasn't joking! 2 visits, we dragged out 12 to 14 pallets!! I even scored ''EDDYs!'' Maillard freewheel boxes one was 5 speed only and the 2nd was 6 and 7 speed!..........These were sitting under 3 of the old mans race bikes!.Bob says!!.......Oh you can have these, EDDY doesn't need these anymore!............A grand total of 80 brand new bodies with the cogs to build them up!! You name it and I grabbed it! You probably all know what happened to this stuff....it all went up in smoke with the fire we had in November 2000.

So please don't be getting your hopes up to high, because it's not true! Just thought I'd get in here fast, because this is where an aunt hill gets turned into a ''MOUNTAIN!'' If I could I'd have them build these framesets up for Renaissance cycles, but we can't because these materials are not available to work with! So the only thing we have to work with are the rust buckets hanging on the walls. Just thought I'd get in here fast, don't want anybody loosing sleep over thinking ''WOW!'' I can get an Original Molteni Replica!

On another note: To those who are waiting on goods, we are working on cleaning up these loose ends before we go on vacation...Anybody who wants to check with me please do so..................Back to work!............Life is good!!

BC...........And the gang.......Eindhoven........Holland!........Hauling A$% down the highway after our first big score at Merckx................Oh!.........Sh##!..........''STOP! STOP!......Red light, brakes fading real fast!....Down shift, Down shift!!.......Too late!.......We were like a freight train crashing through that light!...Man that truck was loaded! Then off to Antwerp for a nice lunch!


----- Original Message -----
From: David Feldman
To: Jerry & Liz Moos


<chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Now:Recreations Was:Prod vs Hand Built, reissues


> The local dealer here (Jack Liskear at EnSelle) says
> that a "replica" Merckx can be built with most if not
> all of the 70's frame materials--long droputs, square
> fork crown, etc. and of course in any of Eddy's teams'
> paint schemes.
> David Feldman
> Vancouver, WA
> --- Jerry & Liz Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > I believe it has been stated here before that Merckx
> > has also not long ago
> > produced reproductions of the old Eddy Merckx frames
> > with Molteni color
> > scheme. Perhaps one can still order one.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:46 PM
> > Subject: [CR]Now:Recreations Was:Prod vs Hand Built,
> > reissues
> >
> >
> > > Greg Gagliano wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Which brings me to my next topic - does a market
> > exist for reissues of
> > classic frames? Cinelli still makes the Super
> > Corsa, but what if they made
> > it in limited numbers, using old graphics/artwork,
> > with choice of 120, 126
> > or 130mm rear dropout width and constructed by only
> > select group of "master"
> > builders at the factory. Same goes for other famous
> > frames like the Peugeot
> > PX-10, Gios Super Record, etc. Is the market too
> > small for such a venture?
> > If the factories are not interested, would a private
> > master builder accept a
> > custom order for a frame that was an exact
> > DNA-matched clone to a 1972
> > Colnago Super?
> > >
> > > ==========================
> > >
> > > Funny you should ask Gaa-lee-aahhh-knooooo,
> > >
> > > In the late 80s early 90s I was doing lots of
> > graphic design for the
> > > Santana Tandem and they were working _very_
> > closely with both Campagnolo
> > > and Columbus on tandem specific parts and
> > tubesets. Even went a trip to
> > > the respective factories with Santana management
> > in '89.
> > >
> > > Antonio Columbo (owns Cinelli, 3ttt, Columbus) was
> > asked about
> > > recreating a Cinelli SC from the early 1970s.
> > This was at a point when
> > > Cinelli was making a Tokyo '64 Olympics replica
> > which was nothing but a
> > > late 80s Cinelli SC painted champagne and with the
> > early circus-style
> > decals.
> > >
> > > The idea was to use the long Campagnolo dropouts
> > (not too hard to find),
> > > spaced to 120mm, old style decals available from
> > the Tokyo replica, have
> > > etched brass headbadge made (piece o'cake). The
> > manager of Santana and
> > > I were going to have some cool rides, right; even
> > officially sanctioned
> > > by Cinelli owner Antonio Columbo himself.
> > >
> > > Well, when Mr. Columbo was asked if it would be
> > possible, the answer
> > > was, "Yes, this is no problem, how many would you
> > like us to build!"
> > > Too easy!
> > >
> > > You had to be there, but take my word for it, the
> > mojo evaporated
> > > instantly from these really cool replica, reissue,
> > reproduction, copies
> > > of authentic, early 1970s Cinelli SCs. It was too
> > easy.
> > >
> > > This experience did however provide the motivation
> > to track down and
> > > restore the 1960 Cinelli S.C. that I presently am
> > the caretaker of. (It
> > > was built during the '60 Rome Olympics, by the
> > way.)
> > >
> > > Chuck Schmidt
> > > SoPas, SoCal
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