Re: Lesson on steel Re: [CR]Reynolds 4130 Tubing on Raleigh Touring?

(Example: Racing:Wayne Stetina)

From: "Raoul Delmare" <R.Delmare@Charter.net>
To: "C.R. List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: Lesson on steel Re: [CR]Reynolds 4130 Tubing on Raleigh Touring?
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:31:57 -0600

I completely agree with Mr. Ives . And besides , he knows way more than I do .

But , was Raleigh's usual "1020" steel really the exact same chemical formula as the U.S.A. 4130 chromium molybdenum steel ?

Raoul Delmare
Marysville Kansas


----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Ives
To: strattonh@insightbb.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: Lesson on steel Re: [CR]Reynolds 4130 Tubing on Raleigh Touring?



> Ok folks I think this has been said before but people don't seem to
> remember. 4130, 531, 501, 555, 753, etc. . . . is not the designation
> of the tubing. What these numbers refer to is the steel itself, the
> make up and each number is a designation of the different metals within
> the steel. I used to know what each number meant, but have long
> forgotten. . .any material engineers out there? All of these steels
> can be drawn into various "tubing sets", for example Reynolds 531 has
> had at least three different butting variations that I know of,
> including an unbutted 531 tubeset. To the OP, yes 4130 is just a
> designation for a type of cro-mo steel and Raleigh has used 4130 for a
> long time. I think, but I'm not 100%, that all the bikes built with
> "Raleigh steel" drawn by reynolds are 4130.
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> SB, CA
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 02:57 PM, Stratton O. Hammon II wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Did Reynolds make a tubing called "4130"? This Ebay seller claims that
> > this Raleigh touring bicycle has such a label. I thought 4130 was just
> > the SAE designation for any seamless Chrome Molly tubing? I looked in
> > a mid '80s Reynolds catalogue and didn't see any tubing with that
> > designation.
> >
> > This is a curious bike. Looks like an English made bicycle, with
> > Carlton style "shot-in" (what we call fast back) seat stays. I would
> > guess this was made about 1980 since it has spoke reflectors and 14
> > speeds (hence the name)?
> >
> > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> > eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&categoryr98&item85707353
> >
> > Item # 1985707353
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stratton Hammon
> > Louisville, KY, USA