RE: Re: [CR][Astra maybe French maybe Belgium made

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From: "Peter Naiman" <vze4k5n6@verizon.net>
To: <rena.cutrufelli@comcast.net>, Raoul Delmare <R.Delmare@Charter.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha.org>
Subject: RE: Re: [CR][Astra maybe French maybe Belgium made
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:21:40 -0500


Mark: To this day, I still have good memories of the Astra. It was purchased in 1968 and road it full time until about 1985 when it was stolen from my Volvo wagon. I had repainted it, with spray bomb, and it actually looked good for bomb. Only after I started collecting about 10 years ago, did I realize that I should have purchased the Paramount. Not that the Schwinn would have been a better cycle, but as a Classic 34 years later, the Paramount is somewhat desirable, and who else knows about Astras? Hindsight is wonderful !! Hetchinspete Boston, Mass


>
> From: Mark <rena.cutrufelli@comcast.net>
> Date: 2003/01/02 Thu PM 09:15:17 EST
> To: hetchinspete@verizon.net, Raoul Delmare <R.Delmare@Charter.net>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha.org>
> Subject: RE: Re: [CR][Astra maybe French maybe Belgium made
>
>
> I had an Astra at about that time (mid to late 60's). Someone on the list
> said they were made by or related to Motobecane. Dave Tesch, a Masi builder,
> (built my GC) and once listmember said he missed his too. Others seem to
> remember them fondly. Mine was either French or Belgium made and I think
> about $59 also.Might have had Weinman concave rims, maybe Weinman brakes too
> I think.I bought it in a Hi Gear (like Western Auto) as a teen. Recognized
> it as a good deal. It had a burnt gold paint color and nice lively ride
> (Disclaimer: But then I weighed only 68 in 9th grade so they called me "Gone
> with the Wind".)
>
> Best Wishes,
> Mark Cutrufelli
> Laurel,MD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Peter Naiman
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:28 PM
> To: Raoul Delmare; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; Morgan Fletcher
> Subject: Re: Re: [CR]["dnacr70" <dnacr70@excite.com>] New old Schwinn
> Paramount
>
>
> Morgan: This bike should be worth a minimum of $12-1500.00 complete NOS in
> box with Campag Nuevo Record. The Schwinn catalogue in 1972 listed the
> center pull brakes as "schwinn approved" with Campag Nuevo Record brakes
> available as an option at additional cost. I've lost the catalogue, so I
> don't have an exact extra cost figure. NOS Raleigh Pros from the early 70s
> with complete Nuevo Record group out of box were selling for about $1700
> from Bicycle Classics, and Vandals Bike Shop in New Bedford, Mass as
> recently as a few years ago. I almost purchased my first Paramount in 1968
> for $300, but opted for a French Astra for $250. The Astra was a gorgious,
> well made cycle, and $50.00 was a lot of money is 1968. I was making $40.00
> per week.
> Hetchinspete., Boston, Mass
> >
> > From: "Raoul Delmare" <R.Delmare@Charter.net>
> > Date: 2003/01/02 Thu PM 05:17:38 EST
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,
> > "Morgan Fletcher" <morgan@hahaha.org>
> > Subject: Re: [CR]["dnacr70" <dnacr70@excite.com>] New old Schwinn
> Paramount
> >
> > Hi Morgan ,
> >
> >
> > Pass this along :
> >
> > Worth at least $ 750.00 , maybe $ 1,500.00 .
> >
> > Should have either Weinmann center pull brakes , or Campagnolo side
> pull
> > brakes .
> >
> > Other than that , sounds like a perfectly stock P13 Deluxe Road
> Racing
> > Paramount .
> >
> > See the left rear drop out for the serial number . It will begin with a
> > letter .
> >
> > See the Waterford Web site for the best explanation of Paramount serial
> > numbers ( but not the best explanation of model types ) .
> >
> > http://www.waterfordbikes.com
> >
> > And hey , is it my frame size ( 24-inch ) ?
> >
> > Cheers ,
> > Raoul Delmare
> > Mryasville Kansas
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Morgan Fletcher" <morgan@hahaha.org>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CR]["dnacr70" <dnacr70@excite.com>] New old Schwinn
> Paramount
> >
> >
> > > Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha.org> writes:
> > > > Found this on rec.bicycles.tech. A NOS early-70s Paramount, still in
> > > > the box!
> > >
> > > Oops, sorry. My attachments were pruned. Please see:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=Z7QQ9.528102%24%25m4
> > .150971%40rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net
> > >
> > > Morgan Fletcher
> > > Oakland, CA
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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