Re: [CR]Cooper, Butler, Mondia, Fuji

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From: <GPVB1@cs.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:20:03 EST
Subject: Re: [CR]Cooper, Butler, Mondia, Fuji
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


I have the most amazing coincidence to report:

Piffle! If the Cooper is about 59 or 60 c-t, then I humbly submit, squire, that I would be quite, quite well-suited to "help" you by removing said irritation. I'm part Brit!! :-)

Cheers and Watney's Red Barrel,

Greg "and a bunch of other Nationalities too - just never mind" Parker Ann Arbor, MI USA (But used to be Romford, Essex, England!)
> Eric
>
> You are indeed a very sick puppy. I think the only cure is for you to
> unload one of those. Purely as an altruistic gesture I could possibly be
> talked into taking the Cooper off your hands. Think of it as a first step
> towards healing. What size did you neglect to say it was?
>
> Ken Sanford (and I don't play a doctor on TV)
> Kensington, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Eric Elman
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 8:28 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Cooper, Butler, Mondia, Fuji
>
>
> My name is Eric Elman.....
> ....and I am I bike-a-holic.....
> ....I just purchased another four more bikes...
>
> A colleague at work was selling a stash of about 10 bikes, mostly all
> modern. They were his brothers who recently passed away. His brother was
> part owner (silent partner) in a relatively local pro-shop. His brother
> was
> said to be a tinkerer so not all components on each frame are necessarily
> original to the bike. Anyhow tucked away was 4 older and wonderful bikes.
> He had stuff broken down into lots and these were not for sale separately
> so
> I HAD to purchase them all.... honest. His brother advised him on their
> value before his death so the seller was educated to some degree and not
> naive about each bike. The lot was on the inexpensive side of fair; not a
> steal but a good deal I think. These are not for sale, I'm just excited
> and
> sharing some details with the group. Here's the rundown on each along with
> some questions.
>
> Ron Cooper, serial number 281. Any way to confirm build date? Full
> Reynolds 531 DB. Now I understand why Ron Cooper bikes are so admired and
> respected. Craftsmanship is outstanding, flawless, etc. Hayden Concorde
> long point lugs with cutouts, full braze-ons with 1 water bottle set. All
> joints are reinforced with diamonds, even for the water bottle - certainly
> not needed but a nice and pretty touch. Merckx orange. Top of BB cable
> guides. Full Campahnolo SR except for American Classic seatpost.
> Crankarms
> are 172.5 with no date. When did 172.5 arms start getting dated -
> different
> timeline than 170's? Neat that the arm profiles are crisper and less
> rounded than the 170's I own/have seen. High flange hubs. Can't wait to
> ride her, see how she stands up to that reputation. She's about the max
> size for me so time will tell if she's a keeper.