Re: [CR]Waterslide transfer question - addl info

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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 21:05:44 -0800
From: "Jim Allen" <jimallen@nctimes.net>
To: Mike Self <self@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Waterslide transfer question - addl info
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cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Mike,

Ok, that "clears" it up. I seem to recall that Dave Moulton referred to any clear top coat as "varnish". Makes sense, varnish is mostly clear. Gas is petrol, wrenches are spanners, and so forth.

I have had some experience with waterslide decals. We used them on Masi's during the early '80s. If the one's you have are similiar to those, I don't think you'll have any problems.

In testing the decals I found that I had to really glop the paint on heavy to affect the decals. Normal amounts of clear were not a problem after an overnight dry.

Later,

Jim Allen San Marcos, CA.

Mike Self wrote:
>Thanks for your responses. Jim asked for more details & some folks
>commented on varnishes.
>
>This is for my Moulton Speedsix & I'm repainting it a yellow close to it's
>original color. It will be a bike to ride & enjoy. It will look much like
>the original (color, most parts), but I'm not trying to put it back to
>original.
>
>The transfers are Lloyd's waterslide transfers which he says to varnish over
>to protect. I want to clearcoat the transfers when I clearcoat the frame.
>I don't want to use any varnish - just apply the decal, let it dry & then
>clearcoat the entire frame.
>
>Another option could be to make vinyl sticker decal & clearcoat over them -
>again the bike will not be restored to original, but I think it will have
>the spirit of the original bike.
>
>I'll probably bring this Moulton to the Cirque along with my 2 Bates (1
>built up from the frameset I had at last years Cirque & the restored '41 I
>purchased from Martin). Hummmm....maybe I will only bring 2 of the bikes -
>we'll see.
>
>Any comments are appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Mike Self
>Cincinnati, OH
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Allen" <jimallen@nctimes.net>
>To: "Mike Self" <self@fuse.net>
>Cc: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [CR]Waterslide transfer question
>
>
>
>
>>Mike,
>>
>>You're gonna have to supply a little more detail.
>>
>>It sounds like you want to apply some varnish transfers as if they were
>>water slide decals.
>>
>>If the decals are printed such that there are no bits no connected to
>>each other, it may work.
>>
>>Jim Allen
>>using McClosky's Spar Varnish for 25 years
>>
>>Mike Self wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I checked the related thread I saved from May/June 2002, but did not find
>>>
>>>
>an
>
>
>>>answer to my question.
>>>
>>>H. Lloyd's instructions warn that using the wrong varnish can destroy the
>>>transfer.
>>>
>>>Is there any problem if I paint (probably Imron), apply transfers (no
>>>varnish) & allow to dry, then apply clearcoat. I assume the varnish is
>>>
>>>
>to
>
>
>>>protect a transfer that will not be clearcoated.
>>>
>>>My painter is a local shop owner who has experience w/ bicycle painting &
>>>decals. We were just concerned because of Lloyd's warnings.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Mike Self
>>>Cincinnati, OH