[CR]Hindsight/eBay outing - now identification

Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:58:28 -0500
Thread-Topic: Hindsight/eBay outing - now identification
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From: "Bingham, Wayne R." <WBINGHAM@imf.org>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR]Hindsight/eBay outing - now identification

Curtis Whatley wrote:
>>>I bid on this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item'04670265#BID1

I was no where near being the high bidder, a rookie with zero history won it. I apologize for not outing this bike, I really wanted it all for my self. What I am curious about is if anyone has an idea of who made this bike or if not it's pedigree, it's lineage?<<<<

Curtis -

As much as I've been avoiding this issue, I think this whole eBay outing thing is moot. As Aldo replied to another similar post, people (particularly on this list) who are interested in such things and ply eBay, have already seen the items. They (we) all have search routines and see a lot of the stuff whether it's "outed" or not. 'Nuff said on that!

I, too, was (and still am) interested in this frame. It's too small for me, so I wouldn't have been bidding, but I still want to know more. One of the things that's interesting about this frame is that it is very similar to one of the US-built Charles Martin frames I have. Although both my Martin frames have fast-back seat stays and the eBay frame in question has a very British full-wrap top eye treatment, the lugs are very similar and the fork is identical to the Martin (except for three holes drilled in the sides of the crown on mine). Even though my Martin frame is a road frame, it has the same crown and round legs as the eBay frame. Can someone identify that crown? Another similarity is that both my Martin frames have solid color, amateur-ish paint, with only a head tube decal and Reynolds tubing decal. The eBay frame has no head tube decal, of course, but the Martins weren't clear coated so the decals are/were very venerable. One of mine only had traces of the tubing decal when I got it.

I still think this frame may be of British origin, but I can't help but wonder. Anyone else care to speculate or at least identify the fork crown?

Wayne Bingham
Falls Church VA