[CR]RE: RE:now: C-record bikes not collectable?

(Example: Racing)

From: "Dave Patrick" <Patrick@aardvark-pro.com>
To: "'David Feldman'" <feldmans1@earthlink.net>, <Patrick@aardvark-pro.com>, "'Tom Sanders'" <tsan7759142@attbi.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:22:57 -0500
In-Reply-To: <001a01c2d1e9$75785240$5fdc3a41@computer>
Subject: [CR]RE: RE:now: C-record bikes not collectable?

You just take those brakes off of your customers as fast as you can, and then kindly send my way. Nothing upsets me more than cyclists who have Campy parts they don't like and/or want. This is very disturbing. How am I supposed to sleep tonight?

Dave Patrick Chelsea, Michigan (Where we give Delta brakes a kind, loving home)

-----Original Message----- From: David Feldman [mailto:feldmans1@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:20 AM To: Patrick@aardvark-pro.com; 'Tom Sanders'; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: RE:now: C-record bikes not collectable?

I guess I'm thinking regionally; Record 180 bikes generate little interest or money in my area. The Delta brakes are an exception, but I hear nothing from my own customers about them except "Want these brakes? I hate 'em" from the few that have used them. Although, what a pantographing canvas,
you know?
David Feldman
Vancouver,WA


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Patrick
To: 'David Feldman'


<tsan7759142@attbi.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: RE:now: C-record bikes not collectable?


> I have to disagree w/David on this one, as C-Record components seem to be
> generating a LOT of interest on Ebay. The C-Record cranks are highly
> desirable and many individuals consider these cranks to be one of Campy's
> most elegant designs. And C-Record Delta brakesets are certainly getting a
> healthy number of bids on Ebay.
>
> Personally, I wish the C-Record era fell within the current CR umbrella. I
> have a lovely 1985 Bob Jackson 50th Anniversary Golden Jubilee frameset
> w/chrome Nervex lugs and chrome rear triangle that I am seriously thinking
> of building w/C-Record, but I would love some detailed info on the early
> variations within the C-Record group. There were, what, four generations of
> the rear derailleur? And the first Deltas were pulled off the market and
> Cobaltos took their place temporarily? Then when did the 2nd generation
> Deltas come out. See what I mean?
>
>
> Dave Patrick
> Chelsea, Michigan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of David
> Feldman
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:58 AM
> To: Tom Sanders; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Downward spiral of classic bike prices
>
>
> C-Record bikes seem to be in the zone of neither junker nor
> collectible--yet. The boat-anchor brakes (Deltas) might not help either; I
> call this the Campy "GNS" (getta no respeck') group.
> David Feldman
> Vancouver, WA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@attbi.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:10 AM
> Subject: [CR]Downward spiral of classic bike prices
>
>
> I just noted a very clean Masi with apparently very clean C Record
> components that didn't make $600 on E-Bay. It seems to me like just last
> year one could have bought the bike, parted it out and offered the frame for
> that. The last 3 Renee Herse and the last four Eisentraut bikes haven't
> made their reserves as far as I can see. An Apparently very clean Frejus
> just went for a hair over $400. A McLean for $600. I am wondering, will we
> see these prices come back up in the meaningful future, or are we really the
> last of a vanishing breed of bike fans? Maybe there's no one really here
> but us? I am feeling a bit like a stranger in a strange land.
> Where do the other list members see this going?
> Tom Sanders
> Lansing, Mi