with regard to lou's earlier a.m. post, i am curious about this... are there any-many on this list that have actually ordered a frame that may be 'considered' a modern version/reissue/ replica/reproduction of a CR timeline bicycle? i would love to know otherwise, but my guess is that the total numbers are frightenly low. from among all the euro marques that have offered updated versions, coupled wth the list builders, i'd be surprised if total sales exceeded 3 dozen. fwiw, my 30th ann frames, intro-ed at 2002 cirque has generated 8 orders, but one one of those is for a listee. how serious_is_this 'interest' in having a new version of an old bicycle frame? my question pertains to a 'new version of an old frame' not a lugged frame made with modern material. that is to say-pre oversized tubes, 'older' lugs, and the like...that kinda' frame. how many of you are out there? talk to me. e-RICHIE Richard Sachs Cycles No.9, North Main Street Chester, CT 06412 USA http://www.richardsachs.com Tel. 860.526.2059