RE: [CR]Inexpensive tubulars redux

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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:01:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Daniel Swords <danielswords@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CR]Inexpensive tubulars redux
To: Ken Sanford <kanford@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To: <NFBBIKHKMLPAGGPAEHFGGEKGCFAA.kanford@comcast.net>
cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Ken, I use the S33 Specials (Diam. 28" ;Sect. 21mm). I've never felt a reason to try the other models because I have been so satisfied with these and since they last forever I may never try the others but I would be interested in comments from list members who have tried the other models. I have these on all three of my Peuget PX-10s. They fit fine on the wheels that came with my bikes (all mid-70s Fiammes or Mavics). I also don't know the difference between a 700 cm and a 28" wheel and am very interested in the answer if anyone can respond? I do know that the fit is tight the first time so I would stretch the tire by putting it on the wheel without using fresh glue the first time. If you do mount it the first time on fresh glue it can be done but you will get plenty glue on your fingers. Tufo makes a double stick tape to replace the tubular rim cement. It also works great and is a pleasure to use (no sticky fingers!) but if you ever need to change the tire it is HARD to do. My local dealer talked to his Tufo rep. who said that you should wet the new tire before you install it on the rim tape so the tape stays on the wheel when you remove the tire and does not stick so strongly to the tubular - but I have not had the opportunity to try that and have not asked Douglas to verify. Before I get too much abuse about mistreating my local dealer I now buy half my tubulars from him and half from bicycletires.com (but now that all my bicycles have the Tufos and a Tufo spare which equals 9 tires I havent had to buy a new tire in ~ a year!). I haven't found any cheaper sources but considering the tire service life a few bucks is no longer a concern for me. In fact I might consider the most expensive model if I ever have the need to replace a tire. BTW - I use the blue color - I doubt that makes any difference in toughness, I just like the look. Daniel S. Swords New Orleans

Ken Sanford <kanford@comcast.net> wrote:Dan

Could you supply a few more specifics? I ride tubs exclusively as well, mostly just club rides (not races) Bicycletires.com list the tubs size as 28" rather than the usual 700cm. Is that really different? Which model of the Tufo's do you use? Have you tried others? Do you use Bicycletires.com or are there cheaper sources.

Thanks Ken Sanford Kensington, MD (where we have not rode for weeks!)

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Daniel Swords Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:50 AM To: Herb Langston Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Inexpensive tubulars redux

I'm posting this reply to the list because others might be interested. I've been riding tubulars for 30 years (I've never even ridden on a clincher). I'm a daily 40 mile commuter. I was going through Vittoria Rally's wholesale and was on a first name basis with Douglas at Bicycletires.com when he suggested that I switch to Tufos. His mistake. Best move I ever made! Tufos look great, they are tough as nails, and Tufo makes a tire sealant that really, really works. I am no relation to anyone at Tufo and get no kick-back, etc. But Tufo tires have changed my perspective of riding. Flats used to always be in the back of my mind as something waiting to happen. Now I never even think of the prospect! I put away my Zeffal pump and remounted my 1973 Silca because it looks better and who cares how well it works - I never need to use it. Tufos hold pressure forever so you don't need to reinflate before every ride. BTW - they are actually tubeless and they make a tubeless t! ubular th

Daniel S. Swords New Orleans Herb Langston wrote:At 10:39 AM -0800 2/27/03, "Charlie Young" wrote:
>The only thing (in cheap tires) that I've run across so far
>is La Bicicletta with Vittoria Rally tires (black and, I
>think, tan sidewalls) at $13 ea. or $109 per box of 10. I've
>had marginal luck with the hideous green version of the
>Rally but the sample size is small (n=3).

I've had great luck with the Vittoria Rally tires (black/tan Kevlar) tubulars over the past couple of years, and they have the right vintage look, too.

Herb Langston Evanston, IL

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