Re: [CR]Re: Fluted stays, Faliero beats chest


Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:13:35 -0700
From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Fluted stays, Faliero beats chest
References: <12a.2495af71.2b976e39@aol.com>


Best, most descriptive term for this style?

"Indented" seat stay end or "fluted" seat stay end? Any preferences?

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, CA

BobHoveyGa@aol.com wrote:
>
> In fact, Faliero addressed that topic in that same article:
>
> Masi: "I have no competitors, only copiers."
>
> Masi: "Just look at those indented seat stay heads..."
> Interviewer: "Yes, what about them?"
> Masi : "They were designed right here in 1965. "
> Tarantino: "Now everyone is using them."
>
> In a message dated 3/4/03 6:05:23 PM, chuckschmidt@earthlink.net writes:
>
> >Bob Hovey wrote:
> >>
> >> In a message dated 3/4/03 1:16:58 PM, The Great and Powerful Lou Deeter
> >> writes:
> >>
> >> > I suppose I always thought that the Merckx design was more influenced
> >> >by Ugo Derosa than by Masi, but then, maybe Derosa was influenced by
> >Masi.
> >> >
> >>
> >> According to Faliero, that would be a big "yes he was"... In an interview
> >in
> >> an old "Winning" magazine (sept 84 I think), Faliero tells the interviewer,
> >> "DeRosa copied my special fork head" ... "I called him on the phone
> >and told
> >> him he was a !!*#%!"
> >
> >So anyone know or have any idea who first came up with the fluted seat
> >stay end that you see on Faliero Masi's Gran Criteriums (the earlier
> >Special model from the 60s had a flat diagonal cutoff seat stay end).
> >In my opinion, the most sophisticated looking seat stay end by far.
> >
> >My second fav, is the wrapping double fluted seat stay cap you see on
> >some Hetchins. Sort of a gothic look that complements the lug treatment.
> >
> >Chuck Schmidt
> >L.A.