Re: [CR]Re: wishbone stays

(Example: Production Builders:Pogliaghi)

Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:55:43 -0700
From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: wishbone stays
References: <3b.35caf21c.2bb60cf4@aol.com>


Curt Goodrich wrote:
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> I think the casting that's used on the Strawberry is often referred to as
> the Strawberry wishbone. I'm not positive but I think it's their own
> casting and they've been using it for a long time. I'm not suggesting they
> did it first because there are very few confirmed firsts in the bike biz.
> It's just that the wishbone has been a signature look for Strawberry for a
> long time.

Richard M Sachs wrote:
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> andy got the patent on this style of lugged wishbone
> attachment in the early 80s and the was subsequently
> copied by the big boys. that what i remember.

Brandon Ives wrote:
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> Well as we saw a couple weeks back BSA was building with them in the
> late 'teens in the thirties.

Bob Hovey wrote:
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> A lot of folks have already mentioned that they just don't like the look...
> And that's natural since the wishbone's a pretty big break with established
> tradition.

At the 2001 Velo Rendezvous event there was an exhibit that featured two bikes with wishbone seatstays:

An 1897 Duquesne (Pittsburgh, Penn.) fixed gear road racing bike (freewheels hadn't been invented yet). It was in Bicycling magazine a few years ago in The Way Back Machine column that Jim Langley did. Constructed of oversize, thin wall tubing (intro'd in 1897) with internal lugs (tubes brazed over outside, instead of inside of lugs), unicrown aero fork, wishbone seat stay, steel aero crank with spider made of five thin, aero sectioned spokes (fifth bolt is in back of crank arm).

A 1995 Trek (Waterloo, Iowa) 5200 OCLV carbon road bike. Oversize thin wall tubing with internal lugs (tubes bonded over outside, instead of inside lugs), unicrown aero fork, wishbone seat stay, alloy aero crank with spider made of five thick, aero sectioned spokes (fifth bolt is in back of crank arm).

Here's a photo: http://www.velo-retro.com/DueqTrek.jpg

Notice the elegant seat post binder on the Duquesne; a nut that surrounds the seat post. Also the bars (Kelly) are adjustable from full drop to full upright position.

Chuck Schmidt L.A.

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