[CR]Re: [messengers] Lambchop

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 21:25:34 -0800
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "joel metz, ifbma/sfbma" <magpie@messengers.org>
Subject: [CR]Re: [messengers] Lambchop

>Whoo Waaa!!! Tell her good luck and to be safe.
>I hope that people's political feelings don't interfere with supporting one
>of our own.
>
>Support the people who are fighting for our freedom and your right to
>disagree.

this is a tough one for me - im opposed to the war, but the other week, i found out that one of my old housemates (non-messenger), whos now married with 2 kids, and who had re-enlisted with the national guard a few years back for the extra $ - was sent over a few months ago. hes a blackhawk pilot. i may disagree totally with what hes doing, but it makes not supporting our troops - at least in the sense of a "troop" being an individual military personnel - a different can of worms for me. i may not support their choices, their reasoning, or what theyre doing, but as *people* i have to support at least those i know who are involved in this whole mess.

but as for them fighting for my freedom and right to disagree - the only people involved in this war (against iraq, terrorism or whatever it is were fighting) whove been infringing on those things, as far as i can see, are in the us government. the patriot act and other post-9/11 legislation are so open-ended on such things as to be truly disturbing to me. the definition of fascism as total integration of state and corporate entities and interests spends a lot of time in my brain these days...

-joel

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i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
after she got that bicycle...