[CR]Re: Classic Campagnolo Grease

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From: "Stephen Barner" <steve@sburl.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 07:59:55 -0400
Subject: [CR]Re: Classic Campagnolo Grease

I know when I first heard many years ago that grease is made up of soap and oil, I jumped to the conclusion that the soap was the typical animal fat stuff that we like to slather on in the shower. Obviously, I must have slept through that part of chemistry class (probably did). Fact is, the lithium IS the soap. It is lithium soap and, as it turns out, lithium makes a darn good soap for the type of application that bicycle bearings are put to. I don't have any historical evidence related to Campy grease, only that I started using it in the early '70s. Still, I saw enough of it to come to a couple of hypotheses that have not yet been shaken. First is that Campy never owned a refinery and so bought the grease from one or more other manufacturers. Second, the grease varied from year to year, possibly due to the fact that it may have come from different suppliers. Most was almost snow white, some was much more brown. Some tended to separate like cheap peanut butter, while some did not. Also, the thickness of the grease varied noticeably.

All this leads me to conclude that Campy grease was just overpriced white lithium grease in a tub. It's way-cool, feels good, works well for the application and has mechanics' mojo up the ying-yang, but there's nothing really special about it, other than someone at Campy years ago dipped a finger into a bunch of different grease samples and said "Thisa feels good" in Italian and that's what they decided to slap in the little plastic tubs with the blue lids.

Some understandable info about grease, including its history, can be found at http://www.blf.org.uk/static/Greases_FS_Page02.pdf and http://www.blf.org.uk/static/Greases_FS_Page01.pdf. Hopefully, reading it will keep anyone else from referring to "real grease" as being something different than white lithium grease. White lithium grease comes in a lot of different varieties, with different characteristics, but it's still "real grease." Most of the thin brown axle grease I have seen is just a different variety of lithium-based grease. The comment about "space-age synthetic stuff" is a bit misleading as well. It may be that the oil has been replaced by a synthetic lubicant in the current version of Campy grease, but I bet the soap base is still lithium. Since one of the prime advantages of synthetic lubricants is their resistance to breaking down under heat, and bicycle bearings don't really get hot, I am not sure there is much advantage to the synthetics when used in a component that gets serviced regularly.

Steve Barner, who rebuilt a Campy front hub last night, using up some of that precious cache of white Campy lithium-until-proven-otherwise grease, Bolton, Vermont


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> >When Record was first made, Campagnolo supplied a white grease that many
> >people still mistake for lithium, when in fact it was a mixture of soap and
> >oil. The oil in the grease tended to separate out and dissipate over time,
> >leaving a thick yellow residue, which could be reconstituted - via the
> >oilhole - by simply adding a few drops of oil from an oilcan.
> >
> >Campy grease WAS, not is, soap and oil. Nothing seemed to cling to
> >ball-bearing as well - I miss it. Nowadays their lubricants are space-age
> >synthetic stuff, and very $$$.
> >
> >Mind you, Campy's old soap-and-oil grease was expensive too, but mostly
> >because it was filtered 4 times and was super clean.