Re: Subject: [CR]GB map-of-britain bars ...

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From: "Stephen Barner" <steve@sburl.com>
To: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: Subject: [CR]GB map-of-britain bars ...
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 06:37:28 -0400


I have two Pros that came with 3TTT stems and GB bars. On the '73 track bike, the ears came together and the bolt actually bent, in order to tighten up against the bars (came from the factory that way, and the bars and stem were road models). On the '74 road bike, the stem developed cracks across the top of the clamp, which I attribute to the size mismatch. The later bike came with a hex key clamp bolt, the earlier stem had a hex nut.

Steve Barner, Bolton, Vermont


----- Original Message -----
From: jerrymoos
To: Stephen Barner
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: [CR]GB map-of-britain bars ...



> The GB bars are 25.4 mm, of course, because that happens to be 1", a nice
> even English dimension, none of this metric foolishness. However, I also
> seem to recall that these came with TTT stems on the Raliegh Pro. I believe
> the TTT stems had a 26.0 mm bar clamp as compared to 26.4 for Cinelli, so at
> least the TTT was closer to fitting the GB bars, but it does seem one would
> have really had to tighten the bar clamp bolt to keep the bars from
> slipping. Unless TTT made a 25.4 stem special for Raleigh, or Raleigh used
> a shim, but I've never heard that either was the case. Anyone on the list
> who sold Raleigh Pros know the answer?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Barner" <steve@sburl.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Subject: [CR]GB map-of-britain bars ...
>
>
> > Don,
> >
> > Be sure you shim those bars, or get a GB stem to mount them in. The
> center
> > diameter is only 25.4mm and can break a TTT or Cinelli stem that is trying
> > to clamp down on them.
> >
> > Steve Barner So why did Raleigh put thse bars into 3TTT stems on Pros?"
> > Bolton, Vermont
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 11:05:31 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
> > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > Subject: [CR]GB map-of-britain bars ...
> >
> > > i am restoring some raleigh internationals, and although they are
> > post-1974, it
> > > would be nice to have one of these bar sets for the 3rd one. these bars
> > were
> > > stock on my 1972 raleigh grand prix, but then raleigh started making
> > boring ones
> > > by 1974, apparently.
> > >
> > > - don