Re: [CR]eBay Outing - Scam???

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From: "J.Dunn" <bikehunter@msn.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <000001c32873$3de95dc0$e05445cf@npjtraining.local>
Subject: Re: [CR]eBay Outing - Scam???
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:43:07 -0800


Well, I'm sorry you find it offensive, Nick, but you're taking one aspect of what I said and taking it out of context.

With over 600 transactions, at least 25% as a buyer, I've bought *many* items on ebay from people who had little or no feedback. But, they didn't have the suspicious combination of 5 days on ebay, relatively expensive, esoteric items and a jillion miles away in a country that has been regularly in the news as having become a hotbed of crime.

I've given many neophyte sellers the benefit of the doubt. I was only taking about *this* auction not all of ebay, and I also said that it was my 2 cents and YMMV. Martin asked for opinions and I gave him mine. This seller could be a virtual saint, for all I know, but this auction has all the earmarks of a flim-flam, and I'm sticking to my guns. I wouldn't touch it. So,maybe you should relax and come down off your high horse.

John Dunn
in
Boise


----- Original Message -----
From: nick
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: FW: [CR]eBay Outing - Scam???



> I find the negative comments about new ebay members rather offensive.We
> all have to start somewhere.I have found people who are new to ebay
> quite often
> have some nice items for sale.Most are people who are selling something
> they
> know little to nothing about.But I always feel it is up to the bidder to
> feel comfortable with an item before placing a bid.Give the new folks
> the
> benefit of the doubt or at least gather as much information as you can
> before you bid.
>
> Nick Zatezalo
> Atlanta,ga
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Martin
> Needleman
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:31 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]eBay Outing - Scam???
>
> Oops! Seller's eBay moniker is Oldvelo.
>
> Martin Needleman
> Annapolis, MD
>
> Martin Needleman wrote:
> >
> > Five extraordinarily interesting bikes now on eBay. Low starting bids
> > and no reserves. Seller with zero feedback, an eBay member since May
> > 28th and located in Russia. Payment by Western Union only. Bidders
> with
> > low/no/hidden feedback but enough "real" bidders to make things seem
> > legit.
> >
> > Would you question seriously the sanity of a list member who bid on
> > these things? I'm sorely tempted - but, after all, that's the whole
> > nature of a clever scam isn't it. Some mouthwatering stuff, folks, if
> > real.
> >
> > Martin Needleman
> > Annapolis, MD