RE: Re [CR]1983 and all that

From: "Dennis Ryan" <>
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Subject: RE: Re [CR]1983 and all that
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:19:34 -0400
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I thought the cutoff date of early 80s (ie approximately 1983) was due to the general demise in the cycling market of clips-n-straps, friction shifting, and lugged steel, and the rise of clipless, indexing, and TiG-welded frames (& MTBs eclipsing road bikes). Exceptions are for continuity/"keepers of the flame," like e-RITCHIE, Rivendell, Brian Baylis, etc; but your tigged full-suspension MTB won't be eligible when its 20th birthday rolls around. I know that something like 20 or 25 years makes a car a "classic," but age isn't the only issue in this case, and there seems little point in "extending the date" of what constitutes on-topicality if a new bike in the classic style is already on-topic.

Dennis Ryan waiting for the rain in Louisville, KY

-----Original Message----- From: []On Behalf Of Ken Wehrenberg Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:53 PM To: Subject: Re [CR]1983 and all that

So many trends (as Kris Green said) were in evidence in the 1984 era-- I brought over the Nevada Ski binding-based Look black and white pedals from France after seeing them in LeCycle; then Hinault and LeMond used them in the TdF and in the Coors later the next summer. When I ride my Vitus 979 equipped with CLB SpaceLine brakes, Mavic/Nisi wheels, and first generation Shimano click shifters with the Looks, I feel that it is definitely more closely related to my present generation Ti/Carbon Shimano 9 rider. For this reason, I think there is a limit to just how far Dale can extend the "classic era" forward from approximately 1984.

Ken Wehrenberg, enjoying the very prolonged spring in Hermann, MO