Re: Ephgrave is here (was) Re: [CR]No Rant

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From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: Ephgrave is here (was) Re: [CR]No Rant
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:33:31 -0500


Extracts from a letter I wrote about the possibility of a custom-built frame set :

I've noticed that those Shimano dual-pivot brakes ( both Ultegra & RX100 ) are "left-handed" side-pulls . The rear brake cable goes to the left hand side of the rear caliper . So the left side sounds perfect for the stops .

( side-pulls from GB , Weinmann , and Dia Compe are "right-handed" , old steel side-pulls made by both Raleigh and Schwinn are "right-handed" , side-pulls from Universal are "left-handed" , Campagnolo Record has always been "left-handed" , Shimano Dura-Ace has always been "left-handed" )

Planning to rotate around to the side , just a little bit ? Not put the cable straight-up on the very top ? I'd go for like maybe the 1:00 to 2:00 o'clock position , or the 10:00 to 11:00 o'clock position , if I were doing the brazing .

Actually , with cantilevers , and "aero" cable-housing . . . and since I like to put the front brake on the right lever , motorbike style . . . running the rear brake cable slightly to the right , might give the housing a better shot at the left side of the handlebar ?

[ you see , which side of the top tube the stops or guides are placed on is not only about the caliper , but about the lever as well ]

Raoul Delmare
Marysville Kansas


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr."
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: Ephgrave is here (was) Re: [CR]No Rant



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> And there's an Ephgrave #1 to welcome to the family. Just recevied it today in the post. It's the "updated" one Chuck S. and I discussed a while back that I ended up not resisting on eBay (not that I tried very hard). Some prior owner while having it refinished added Campy short rear drop outs, down tube bosses and BB cable guides, and chamfered the BB for a Mavic unit. Not very fitting for a '49 #1, but on the other hand the updates undoubtedly depressed the price to where I could almost afford it. So hats off to that unknown prior owner; because of him I now own an extremely nifty bike. With luck on the BB I will bring it to the Larz vintage ride in about two weeks.
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> http://ebay.com/<blah>
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> One initial question; the brake cable guides are on the lower right side of the top tube, the opposite of what would suit a more modern Campy style sidepull. The reach is fairly short, about 50mm in a quick check on the front fork. There's no bridge for a rear center pull brake, although of course a binder bolt hanger could be fitted. What brakes would this frame most likely be designed for?
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> Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ
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> >From: Ritzmon@aol.com
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> >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> >Subject: [CR]No Rant
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> >Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:17:31 -0400
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> >I want to interrupt the current OT thread(s) to let everyone know that my new Bates have arrived! Yes, not one but TWO beautiful frames are in my possession, for me and my lovely bride (62cm for me, 53cm for her). They are Volante models with fancy chromed lugs and chromed dropouts, Diadrant forks, Cantiflex tubing, and a flamboyant RED color that just glows in the rare sunshine that we have around here! I can't wait to get these put together and put some miles and smiles on them.
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> >And what a great pair of companions for my 1961 Bates!
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> >Thanks go to Martin Coopland, for the great communication throughout the process!
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> >Now, back to our regular contributors' rants.
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> >Cheers,
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> >Mark Ritz
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> >in foggy Arcata, CA