[CR]Brooks Saddles On Italiano Bicycles

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
To: "C.R. List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:01:36 -0500
Subject: [CR]Brooks Saddles On Italiano Bicycles

I've always been curious about this .

My Frejus-Legnano , made in July or August of 1972 , came from the factory with a "Genuine Brooks Leather Professional Saddle" , and a Reynolds double butted tubing decal .

What the history on all of this English-ness ?

Did this come from the Frejus side of the marriage ?

Did this come from the Legnano side of the marriage ?

And yes , I do recall the thread from months ago ( maybe a year ) , about saddle customizers , in Italia , among other countries , who would take a new fresh stock Brooks saddle , remove the leather , custom-modify it , and put it back on with larger hand-peened rivets ( sometimes the rivets were even aluminum ! ) . And , I too was surprised to learn that the correct term for these saddle-cobblers was , "saddle butchers" , with no insult intended at all .

So ! We know that there were some VERY expensive customized Brooks saddles being ridden around in Italia .

But really , once the Unica-Nitor-Cinelli nylon saddles arrived , they just about took-over the high end of the Italiano market .

Anybody know the accurate story ?

Raoul Delmare
Marysville Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Baylis
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]which seat is right?

> Ann,
> My suggestion for saddle is a Cinelli Unicanitor. Many bikes used the
> Unica #3, I believe it is the Buffalo Padded one. Any Unica of the time
> will work and look fine. Brooks are uncommon on Italian racing bikes in
> the 70's from my experience.
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa (Monte capital of the world), CA
> >
> > Hey all....
> >
> > I'm trying to put together some spare goodies for the Monte, correct seat
> > and pedals, for the purpose of display. Not for actual riding! I'm a
> > vintage traitor that way.... So shoot me, I like velcro <g>.
> >
> > I've never paid attention to vintage correct seats, except to say "ow," and
> > get rid of them as quickly as possible. Now I have to find one. What seat
> > might be correct? Think mid 70s. It can be a little bit touristy as the
> > Monte is coming out a little bit touristy.
> >
> > Ann Phillips, Decatur GA - where we resumed building an ark today