Re: [CR]Tandem


From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <HBECIOPCNPKEJLCJBKNKKEELGHAA.dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CR]Tandem
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:12:54 -0500


Despite the black plastic wingnuts, I think those are Campy shifters. They are longer and more slender than the alloy Simplex Criterium shifters, and have lettering cast in like Campy. Also have green slip-on rubber covers, not the black hard plastic covers that seemed permanently bonded to the Simplex shifters. Maybe they used Simplex wingnuts on Campy shifters (Simplex threaded bosses, perhaps?) the only shifters that look that much like Campy are Zeus. I'm also pretty sure those are Campy front pedals, don't look like any French pedal I've ever seen. Could be Zeus Grand Sport. Could also be a Campy NR MKS or KKT clone, but given the general lack of Japanese equipment, I doubt it. The hubs are Campy or Campy clone. Could be early Dura-Ace as you say, or Zeus. I'm betting the non-French stuff is all Campy or, less likely, all Zeus. Front derailleur definitely Simplex as you say. Rear derailleur is anyone's guess. No plastic evident, so if it is Simplex, it is SLJ or other all-metal model.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Bilenkey"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: [CR]Tandem



> Shift levers are Simplex (that little black wing nut is a give away),
> Simplex FD, I'd guess Simplex RD just for the idea of consistency, but
> there's no way to see it. Hubs are Shimano and rims Super Champion. I'd
> guess that the pedals are likely not Campagnolo, as there seems to be no
> Campag on the bike otherwise. But that's just speculation.
>
> David Bilenkey
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> > [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of jerrymoos
> > Sent: June 23, 2003 9:12 AM
> > To: Dennis Young; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Tandem
> >
> >
> > I guess you have to read Japanese to identify all the components. Cranks
> > are definitely TA, brakes Mafac, rear pedals look like Lyotard. However,
> > the front pedals, shift levers and hubs sure look like Campy NR
> > to me. Hard
> > to see the derailleur through the rear wheel, could be a Campy Rally.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dennis Young" <mail@woodworkingboy.com>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:47 AM
> > Subject: [CR]Tandem
> >
> >
> > > A Royal Norton tandem bike from 1975, currently at the Japanese auction.
> > I
> > > belive that this was a Japanese made frame. I guess French components,
> > but
> > > can anyone verify?
> > >
> > > http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c39941569
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Dennis Young
> > > Hotaka, Japan