Re: [CR]Wheel Building advice sought

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:48:32 -0400
From: jamie swan <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Wheel Building advice sought
To: Steve Maas <>
References: <a0501040cbb1d39f6d01a@[]> <076901c339e3$b686c1b0$efddfea9@mooshome> <>

I have the Wheelsmith spoke calculator. If you send me your numbers I'm happy to tell you the spoke length. Jamie Swan - Northport, N.Y.

Steve Maas wrote:
> I strongly recommend measuring the wheel rims and hubs and calculating
> the spoke lengths. The published data for hub dimensions and rim ERD
> often are inaccurate. There are a number of spoke-length calculators on
> the web. I use the one by Damon Rinard, an Excel spreadsheet, which I
> can send you if you wish. It includes a database of hub and rim
> dimensions. I don't recommend using them, but they can serve as a
> "sanity check" for your measurements.
> Lickton's is the cheapest I've found for spokes. "Cheap spokes" is
> something of an oxymoron, I'm afraid.
> Sounds like you'll have some nice wheels, though.
> Steve Maas
> Long Beach, California
> jerrymoos wrote:
> > OK, all you expert wheel builders, I'm planning to build two sets of wheels,
> > one for a Caygill, one for a new Bates. Using Phil Wood hubs (126 rear,
> > 48mm flanges) in both cases. Rims will be 36 hole Mavic MA-2 or maybe one
> > set Ambrosio Gentleman. Sutherlands says the proper spoke length is about
> > 303mm for 4X or 295mm for 3X on the MA-2. They don't list the Ambrosio
> > Gentleman, but it seems pretty similar. Anyone have different advise? I'm
> > partial to 4X, but would anyone recommend against this for this hub/rim
> > combination? Finally, anyone know of a really cheap source for DT 14/15
> > butted spokes? The best I've found so far is Lickton's at $11 per package
> > of 20.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX