[CR]Conversations on wheel building...are there great wheelbuilders

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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:57:24 -0400
From: "Gary Chottiner" <gsc2@po.cwru.edu>
Subject: [CR]Conversations on wheel building...are there great wheelbuilders
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


I don’t generally like to badmouth people (at least in public) but one of the worst set of wheels I ever owned were built by a famous wheelbuilder (with the initials JY). Some years ago, I ordered a Campy Hi-Lo hubset from the original Bicycle Classics (before they moved to Boulder) and had them ship the hubs to JY to build the wheels. Within a couple of weeks these wheels were wobbling all over the place, with several obviously loose spokes. After I retrued them, they lasted until the rims wore out. I wasn’t even fat back then and I never had similar problems with wheels built by local unknowns for far less money.

For the past two years, I’ve been using some vintage Wheelsmith wheels (picked up on eBay for less than the cost of JY’s labor) on my commuting bike and they have remained absolutely perfect, although I had to devote an hour to removing the hideous ‘WHEELSMITH’ lettering from the rims. Presumably my poor experience with the JY-built wheels was an anomaly and I hope your wheels hold up better than mine did.

Gary Chottiner Northeast Ohio

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Today while working in the back room with Bill Barrow at his bike shop the conversation turned to wheel building. I remarked that I had a bike coming with wheels built by Joe Young and that he was the hot wheel builder of the moment. Bill is usually a man of very few words unless he feels strongly about something. He said that while there are certainly bad wheel builders that wheel building is a matter of deciding what you want the wheel to be like and building it that way. He feels that this is either done or not done. I mentioned that there were some very famous wheel builders like Spence Wolf or the early Wheelsmith wheels that were sort of legendary. He again said that good wheels are good wheels and that if we wanted to talk great wheel builders that he had seen a very short woman years ago at the Schwinn factory who was as wide as tall, but could build a great wheel in seven minutes. He felt that was the greatest wheel builder he had ever seen and that was unlikely to be topped. Forty years in the bike business makes Bill a pretty knowledgeable guy. I certainly did not know enough to argue with him. What I'd like to know is just what is it that gives famous wheel builders such as Joe Young or Spence Wolf such a cache among the classic biking community. Are their wheels actually better than other good wheel builders and , if so, how?
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