Re: [CR]Re: bronze welding vs brazing..

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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:54:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joe Starck" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: bronze welding vs brazing..
To: Brandon Ives <>
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Dave Tesch began building mostly fillet-brazed bikes when he designed his own over-sized tube set manufactured by TruTemper, I think he called this set the S-22. Also, his right-hand man at the time, I can't recall his name, "Mako" was the man's brand in later years I think, anyway, this employee of Dave's was a hotshot fillet-brazer, his torchwork meant little clean-up pre-paint. Potential customers for this model of frame just wanted a top-flite race bike without the curls. - Joe Starck, Sun Prairie, Wisconsin

Brandon Ives <> wrote:On Friday, August 01, 2003, at 08:13AM, wrote:
>In a message dated 8/1/03 8:12:19 AM, SoundSourceCDs writes:
>>Can anyone tell me why builders like Tesch and Landshark seemed to go from
>>fully lugged to fillet brazed with their frames. Or did they?
>Because they wanted to?

Phil's on right track, but there are a few other factors. I've heard quite a few builders talk about how bored they became of building on a particular style. It's a change of pace. Some of the other factors are that if you cut out the price of good lugs you cut the price of your materials by 30%-40%. Also the flexibility of design is a real bonus in my book. For a long time I thought lugs really were the way to go, but then I got Bill Philbrook frame on loan and changed my mind.

Nobody can do everything,
but if everybody did something
everything would get done.
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