Re: [CR]Check that Weyless seatpost..IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION!

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From: "Gary Jacobson" <skateklister@hotmail.com>
To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net, Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, BruceCumberland@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [CR]Check that Weyless seatpost..IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION!
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 19:03:58 +0000


What about a relationship between the current Weyless, and the Weyless of the 70's that made seatposts, rollers, and other accessories including clothes. I think they were in Rochester, NY.

Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY


>From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
>To: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>,"C.R. List"
><classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,"Bruce C." <BruceCumberland@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Check that Weyless seatpost..IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION!
>Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:50:21 -0500
>
>Speaking of this, is there a connection between American Classic and the
>old
>Weyless? Their current seatpost seems to be essentially to old Weyless
>design. If it weren't for the large logo, in fact, this post would be a
>nice option for a replacement post for a late 70'/ early 80's bike. I've
>only seen photos of this post. Is it perhaps possible to remove the logo
>without ruining the finish of the post?
>
>In the same vein, I've noticed the old French Laprade design, later
>produced
>by SR in the classic era, is still being made by Kalloy. I've ordered a
>few
>for those odd old sizes, hope the logo isn't too prominent.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jerry Moos
>Houston, TX
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
>To: "C.R. List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>; "Bruce C."
><BruceCumberland@comcast.net>
>Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:22 AM
>Subject: [CR]Check that Weyless seatpost..IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION!
>
>
> > Although , of course , FIRST GENERATION original Weyless seatposts
>(
> > Made-In-U.S.A. ) can develop what I will call "loose heads" .
> >
> > The head of the post is "glued" to the shaft . If the "glue"
>fails
>,
> > the head can rotate from side to side . No big deal . The nose of
>the
> > saddle just swings a bit , until you get home .
> >
> > The fix is to drill a small hole , and insert a pin , or a set screw .
> >
> > Which , if I am remembering correctly , is exactly what Weyless did on
>the
> > second-generation original Weyless seatposts ( Made-In-U.S.A. ) .
> >
> > ( am I getting my first-generation Weyless information confused with my
> > first-generation American Classic information ?? ?? )
> >
> > I have a first-generation Weyless seatpost that was custom modified by
>its
> > original owner , before I received it . The tiny , black ,
>headless
>,
> > allen-key-adjustable , set screw , is very elegant looking !
> >
> > Gosh I love Weyless ( U.S.A. ) hubs , seatposts , and rollers !
> >
> > :^)
> > Raoul Delmare
> > Marysville Kansas
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <OROBOYZ@aol.com>
> > To: <morganx9@yahoo.com>; <jaysports@lycos.com>;
> > <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:45 AM
> > Subject: [CR]Check that Weyless seatpost..IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION!
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated 8/3/2003 3:24:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > morganx9@yahoo.com writes:
> > >
> > > <<.........This crash happened last Sunday and he was riding his new
> > > Scattante from
> > > SuperGo. It had a Weyless seatpost that either broke a bolt or the
>bolt
> > fell
> > > out. He was at the back of the group and was not run over but he did
>fall
> > > backwards off the bike suddenly and broke his neck......... >>
> > >
> > > It is very important to clarify which "Weyless" seatpost involved
>here!
> > Just
> > > as with Motobecane, Mercier, and other classic names of bygone days,
> > > opportunistic retailers and importers are buying up rights to names
>which
> > illicit
> > > memories of quality and tradition but then place them on low cost
>product
> > often
> > > designed in haste and made by the lowest bidder..
> > >
> > > The brand name "Weyless" has been purchased and placed on Chinese made
> > > product as a marketing ploy by a vendor known for low prices and
>marketing
> > hype.
> > > These "modern" products have virtually no similarity to the "vintage"
>USA
> > made
> > > Weyless products of the 1970s and 80s. I have never heard of a
>made-in-USA
> > > Weyless seatpost failing.
> > >
> > > The clue in this story was the bicycle being identified as "Scattante"
> > which
> > > sounds Italian but is far from that. I hope the victim vigorously
>pursues
> > > these retailers and helps to get this crap off the
> > market....................
> > >
> > > Dale Brown
> > > Greensboro, North Carolina