Re: [CR]Framebuilding blather

Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor

From: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr." <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Framebuilding blather
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:12:12 +0000

It's also around this time that tig welding and alternate frame materials like aluminium began popping up like mushrooms on higher end bikes, to the eventual detriment of handmade lugged frame artisans and "traditional" steel frames. It's not a real sharp line, as lugged steel and friction shifting continued on in popularity for several years and have never totally gone away (hence; flame keepers), but the line has to go somewhere--

Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ

>From: "stevens"

>To: Joe Starck ,
>Subject: Re: [CR]Framebuilding blather
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:59:09 -0700
>Changing from NR/SR to C-Record, and start of index-shifting
>and clipless pedals, primarily ... a technological shift, in
>other words.
>Steven L. Sheffield
>stevens at veloworks dot com
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>---------- Original Message -----------
>From: Joe Starck

>Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:36:34 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: [CR]Framebuilding blather
> > This 1983 clause, I forget, why 1983 anyway?
> > - Joe Starck, Madison, Wisconsin
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > We could circumvent all this discussion about framebuilding (isn't
> > there a list somewhere for this anyway) by restricting list topics
> > to bikes built before 1983 and doing away with the "keepers of the
> > flame" clause that gives rise to it all in the first place. Just a thought.
> >
> > Bruce
> > Dundee
> > Scotland
> >
> > --